What to Watch: TV Chat with Hank Stuever

Nov 07, 2019

Post TV critic Hank Stuever talked about what's bad, good and so bad it's good on TV.

Here's what Hank would watch if he wasn't paid to watch TV: "Barry," "Better Things," "Below Deck," "This Is Us" and "Insecure." Lately he's been digging "Watchmen," "Unbelievable," "Lodge 49" "Succession," "The Crown" and "On Becoming a God in Central Florida."

Hi, all -- looks like a lot of questions in the queue already, so we'll get to it.

Anyone watching Apple TV+? In addition to my "Morning Show" review, I filed another review that looks at three of their other shows: "Dickinson," "For All Mankind" and "See." If you have any of your own thoughts, I'm all ears. (Eyes, I guess.)

Also, there will be NO CHAT next Thursday, Nov. 14 -- I'll be out on assignment that day. (Yes, outside of the newsroom. I wonder what it's like out there?)


Lots of comments here about "The Affair" -- bear with us, I'll post them first and clear a path ...

I was pretty impressed. It seems like the show was finally about whether a person can change, and why, with a layer of climate change over it - so whether a person can change to whether the world can change to avoid climate change. I had no idea that Noah could be redeemed, I would have said no, but they did a great job. And I'm haunted by the final scene. Sorry for the poorly worded post, but I'm still thinking about it. My one problem is that they seemed to minimize Noah and Alison in the last season. Early on, they had a soulmate storyline, and as this season wore on it seemed more like she was an escape to Noah. HIs discussion of Alison with Joanie was spot on though, as if he finally got Alison after listening to her statement last week. I wish we could have a whole chat about this! Thanks for turning me on to this great show. Even in the last episode, I was picking out the differences between perspectives (and wow, Whitney is a total brat even in her own point of view). :-)

Well. That was like drinking out of a firehose trying to keep up with all the themes they were trying to address in 90 minutes. Let's see - love, the passage of time, genetics, revenge, forgiveness, aging, flash mobs, fathers, mothers, sons, daughters, on and on. I was exhausted by the end. I guess I am happy with the overall conclusion, but man, that could have been spread out a little more. At least everyone generally got a happy ending, except for poor Future E.J.

You're giving them a lot more thematic credit than they deserve, I think.

Hi Hank -- really anxious for your take on the series finale. I thought that there were a lot of great moments, mostly having to do with the wedding, including Noah drilling everyone on steps to the flash mob dance and of course the reconciliation with Helen. And while I've resisted the Joanie plot all season long, I thought the Lobster Roll scene between the elderly Noah (but that make up!) and Joanie somewhat redeemed that choice...somewhat. But I was really hoping Helen might dodder out of the kitchen with a plate of coleslaw and sit down and join them. It did set up that last scene on the cliff, which was a nice note to end on (and I was a huge fan of that song back in the 80s). What did you think?

I thought it was a bloated episode and the ending was too upbeat. (As my colleague Amy Argetsinger wryly observed Sunday night on Twitter, who was ever "The Affair" for a happy ending? I agree 100 percent.) I do appreciate that Noah and Helen will never see even the smallest details the same way -- such is the human condition. Toward the very end, I wondered if we were seeing a version of Noah's hell: Restoring the lobster roll cafe? And having to live in it for all eternity. Sure looks like hell. And the dancing on the cliff outro left me cold. Sorry, I am heartless.

I don't want to be mean to actor Max Fowler (who I believe is English in real life), but when he mentions the stuff about his parents and the Belfast Airport, I had thought he was a Dane or somewhere in Scandinavia.

They said he was Irish quite a bit.

If you would have told me what was going to happen I would have gagged. Somehow they pulled it off. Poor Helen never got a break from her mother! (they died the same year per tombstones).

They deserved each other.

Did it seem like we spend a lot of time on a wedding for a couple we in the audience aren't invested in at all and the show has actively shown (granted often from the P.O.V. of the bride's disapproving parents) is not a great couple.

Should it all have just ended in the Topanga fire the week before? Maybe, probably.

I have no idea what's going on but, wow, it's just mesmerizing. I adore Jean Smart (from "Fargo"), whose intelligence and depth are wonderful to behold. This is a show that invites repeated viewings. There's always something new to discover. Thanks for turning us on, Hank. You're the best.

This is precisely the way to watch it. Thank you for the note.

I had a thought while watching the second season: Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan is the Hallmark Christmas Movie of Spy TV. Very paint by numbers stuff, which is somewhat entertaining without being at all mentally challenging. Also, I think the opening credits are excellent. :)

It is E-Z TV, I'll agree about that.

I have been aggressively uninterested in the Randall-Beth storyline over the past few seasons but Tuesday's episode may have been enough to win me back. The young actors playing Deja and Malik are outstanding and their tour of the city actually made me want to visit Philadelphia. I didn't even miss Kevin and Kate.

It was another good episode, indeed. In fact, this season has been very strong overall. I find all the characters interesting, but I'm always most interested in Randall and Beth's thread, so there you go. To each their own.

Is there a Dublin Murders review in our future, or is it not worthy of review (so that's the review)?

Correct: No review IS the review in this case.

"This is a show that invites repeated viewings. There's always something new to discover." Yep yep yep. I noticed on my third viewing of the last episode that he said he needed something warmer for the next Mr. Phillips, so he then went hunting for buffalo or bison, which the warden nixed. They do have pretty warm hides, don't they?

Did you watch it? Did you love it? Hate it? Think it was not necessarily truth in advertising? Could I find these answers on google? Of course! Will I? Never!

The very smart Emily Yahr watched it so you or I or anyone else didn't have to. I saw 10 minutes of it and wondered who the hell these people are in the audience, wearing crab claws, applauding like it's the finest work of performing arts they've seen in their whole lives.

Also I feel rather smothered by Disney these days, in all forms. More than I usually do.

Is the Philadelphia tourism board now sponsoring "This Is Us"?

Are you the person who asked last week if Turner Classic Movies paid for the free plug in "This Is Us"? You might be watching it wrong. Verisimilitude in brand, event or location does not always mean advertising.

So is Doctor Manhattan ever going to make an appearance? I guess the series could work with him being on Mars the whole time, but someone is keeping Veidt prisoner and I can't imagine who else it could be. Although judging my the state of Mr. Phillipps 2.0 after he was presumably sent into the cold of space, Veidt may not even be on Earth. But he could be enclosed in some sort of dome in Antarctica. Yeah, I love these shows that make me think of ALL the possibilities.

I think it's going to be a slow build to Doctor Manhattan. I've seen six episodes (there are eight this season, I believe) and, while the show is moving briskly, I don't expect it to move that fast.

I loved the first season, and the story obviously didn't cry out for another. Have you seen the new season? Is it good?

It's not a show that I've watched, so I can't help here. Sorry.

It seems like this one could be the biggest thing to shake-up television (for lack of a better word) than anything since (and maybe ultimately including) Netflix. They are really going for the Netflix kill by not only featuring all of their mass consumption hits for all ages (old cartoons, Star Wars, Marvel, new cartoons, Fox catalogue including The Simpsons), but offering a free year to Verizon customers. Am I wrong to worry about Disney cannibalizing the entire industry with this shot?

The combination of everything that they own and have recently acquired is quite staggering. I think your worry is legit, unless the company doubles down on a commitment to seek out and support the original, the quirky, the outre, the risky, the adult. Perhaps FX can act as an artistic contagion.

Your review skipped this point (probably because its a niche question) but does Dickinson touch on her time at Mount Holyoke ever? Seems like a rather important plot point given the emphasis on the secret lover.

Not in the three episodes I've seen. She sneaks into an all-male college lecture though, if that counts for anything. Best if you don't watch it with a long list of demands for historical accuracy.

It was pretty glossy portrait of Philadelphia so far. Maybe just jealous since my city isn't getting that treatment.

You're jealous on a municipal level? That seems like a waste of time.

If I remember correctly, you gave Superstore a lukewarm or negative review when it premiered, and despite being a fan of America Ferrera's, I never watched it because I assumed it would be cancelled. I just recently caught an ad for it and lo and behold! Here it is--five seasons later! (I Googled that last bit.) To you or any of the chatters: has it improved and found its feet, or is it just cruising along, being what it is, like Name-Any-Tim-Allen-Show?

People who love it really lo-oo-ovvve it. I'm happy for them. I still find it very medium-warm.

Stipulated: I'll probably not watch it even once. But isn't one of the chief complaints of Peak TV that "there's not enough hours in a life to watch it all!" And now I'm reading casual mentions of "the third time I watched it....." ??!? You guys go off and invent a time machine without sharing it with the rest of the class?

Haha. I'm with you -- I take really copious notes on the first screening just so I won't have to go back and re-watch shows. But in the case of "Watchmen," it has piqued the interest of my very picky significant other, so I'm getting extra viewings on our Sunday nights.

I thought the one that work kind of the best (for me) was forgiveness one. Not so much on Noah's end (I mean the man single handily planned a wedding, not the groom's parents and rescuing his ex-wife from a wildfire AND a rattlesnake bit), but from the point of view of Helen and Whitney's decision to forgive him. It weighs on them and societal pressures are hitting them on both ends yet there impulse is forgive and why deny it.

Hi, Hank. I totally understand why you gave this CBS All Access show a tepid review, but for what it's worth, I tried it anyway largely on the strength of Lucy Liu being one of the stars, and I'm really glad I did. In many ways, it was indeed predictable, but the finale had a stunning sequence combining the three plot lines (set in 1962, 1984 and 2019). Anyway, CBS has renewed it (presumably with a different cast), so I encourage any of your chatters who has the CBS app to check it out (and no, I'm not affiliated in any way with the network or the show. I'm just a fanboy!).

Thanks for the follow up. Maybe I'll go back and just watch the finale, if it's really all that amazing.

I've been watching Jeff Probst since day one about 20 years ago, but the past few years have been much of the same. Then they finally got me to STOP watching by bring back Boston Rahb and Sandra again. How many more seasons do you think it will be before CBS shuts it down for good? Also, RIP Rudy Boesch, who passed just this week.

I haven't given much thought (or done much research into the ratings) when it comes to "Survivor" (or "Big Brother"). I assume they're both still chugging along indefinitely. Am happy to share info if other chatters follow this more closely.

Maybe you didn't see it, but if you did, what did you think of U.K. columnist Charles Moore criticism of "The Crown" casting Olivia Colman because Colman has “a distinctly leftwing face” and Colman finally responding this past week? I admit I didn't know who Chares Moore was, but he's a pretty prominent person in U.K. media so of course it's all so dumb, but his status elevated it. Plus it's such a bizarre critique.

I'm eight episodes into Season 3 (out of 10 episodes), and this is the sort of thing I avoid when trying to write my own review.

I don't believe you are a fan of Seam Team, but I think it's gotten even better. Not as funny as Fleabag, nor intended to be, but there you go.

A Google search on "Seam Team" only takes me to sewing sites, so I really don't know what you're talking about.

Thought it was interesting in your review that you suggested it might have been a better show (I am extrapolating a bit here) if Jennifer and Reese had switched roles. I believe you said the same thing about Nicole Kidman and Reese in Big Little Lies. No idea what point I am trying to make here. It just stuck out.

Did I really?

I guess maybe I wonder that about a lot of big names who step into prestige television: Are they going to do what we expect or are they going to push themselves?

Beautifully shot, but the acting and writing are... meh. I liked Dafne Keen much more in Logan. Plus... this is my problem and cannot be blamed on the filmmakers... I hate hate HATE seeing talking animals. I think it's an Uncanny Valley thing for me, but it just rubs me the wrong way.

I'm interested (sort of) to hear what others thought about "His Dark Materials." I was left with absolutely no opinion, impression or anything to say about it. Seems the hardcore fans have already launched their podcast discussions, etc., which sort of confirms my feeling that it's a show for people who were already totally into it and not like other shows ("Watchmen") that put extra effort into enticing newcomers.

Talking animals are indeed a hurdle, I agree. I don't like your emphasis of the word "hate," though. I know "hate" is the internet's favorite word for a gamut of negative feelings, but it's a hateful world already. Why not say "talking animals irritate me"?

Between WestWorld returning and Watchmen, I'm not sure I'm ready for it. It's not so much that they're complicated shows, but that they seem needlessly complicated. Like they are making more complicated just to be complicated rather some major payoff or profound storytelling.

They are indeed aiming for a sophisticated viewers who likes to be challenged. There's plenty of inert TV for everybody else. Also, "Watchmen" ends and there's probably a month or more before "Westworld" begins -- with that highly-effective mindwiper known as Christmas in between the two. You'll be okay.

Please, help. I don't have any streaming services yet, but I feel like I'm really missing out not having any. But now, there's so many choices, each with their own benefits/drawbacks. Any advice or suggestions? For a complete newbie, if you could pick only one (or two), which would you recommend?

I would start with the easiest one -- Netflix. Just to get used to the act of switching over to it, logging in, and surfing around its infinite choices. After a few weeks, once you are more entertained than frustrated, you might try adding another. Amazon Prime, maybe (I promise I have no interest in the Post's owner's other company), or Hulu.

Try it in small steps so you won't get overwhelmed.

And also be prepared for the realization that no one of these services will suit all your entertainment needs. They're all in a vicious competition for your money; there is never going to be one service that has everything.

Wow, that a weird thing to write. Is that code for "poor" or "working class"?

It's Labour vs. Conservative over there, so, yes, leftwing has typically affiliated with the workers. BUT WHO CARES.

I think people who have worked in retail especially appreciate Superstore.

I have worked in retail and don't especially appreciate Superstore, but okay.

If you were away on Mars like Dr. Manhattan, and could only watch one TV show for an extended period of time, what show would it be? Oddly, after way too much thought, I picked Cheers, at least in part because I assume I'd be pretty lonely.



I'm hooked but really enjoying myself!

I watched the first episode and was underwhelmed. A lonely mom? Dealing with her awful children? I already watch Better Things. This show struck me as a poor man's Better Things, and also a misuse of Kathryn Hahn. She's so funny. Why can't they let her be funny? Does the show get better?

I gave it a rave review, not only for Hahn's performance, but for the story overall -- which I find different from "Better Things" in a lot of ways. I also really like how they follow the jerk son into his first semester -- Jackson White gives a great performance there.

Sounds like you want more of a ha-ha comedy and have already closed yourself to this show, so, yes, move on.

I remember I started "Game of Thrones" in the second or third season, I thought it was going to super complicated to follow and did the whole, "I'm really going to follow this" stuff, but it wasn't very hard to follow. I mean I knew next-to-nobody's name and some worldbuilding stuff when over my head (difference between "Old Gods" and "New Gods" or where exactly is Dragonstone in relation to King's Landing), but it's still just telling a story and it wasn't hard to follow. Maybe I'm missing some stuff, but I followed what Jeremy Irons or Jean Smart were up this week for the most part even though I can't remember their characters' names. Often the discussion around a show makes it seem harder to follow than it really is.

This is absolutely true. All you really need to watch a TV shows is eyes and ears (if you've got both) and a willingness to just let it happen. It's the after-talk that makes it seem like a bigger deal than it is, but remember, that has a lot to do with people wanting to seem very smart and very cool about culture. (Also a lot of them are getting paid.) It can take on an air of elitism that makes everyone else wonder if they're good enough to even start watching the show.

I love Jean Smart. I'm always glad to see her pop up, whether in Frasier, Fargo, or now, Watchmen. She was great in Designing Women, but she's got a lot more range than I would have thought back then.

It's called acting, and it's a professional skill that one can spend decades building and improving. This is why I feel so passionately about letting actors move on to other roles, even if their past roles stand out in a really big way.

if i were stuck on Mars with only 1 TV show to watch.

Well, it's settled: I am not going to Mars.

The poster starting on Netflix should be aware that the first few films and Programs they chose to watch will make a very big impression on the "Netflix Recommends" category. I think the 2nd movie I chose was when my grandkid visited and it was "Toy Story 2". Lo and behold Netflix thought I was 8 years old and it recommended nothing but kid's movies!

So don't click on 'em and scroll down and start picking other stuff. It'll rescramble the algorithm.

I sympathize, though. When I'm deep into research on something, YouTube will start to think that I only want to watch old clips of a show forever and ever, even once I've moved on.

Breaking up with a TV show you've stuck with for years is hard to do! But I broke it off with Grey's Anatomy about five years ago, and I still get a feeling of freedom whenever I see an ad for it. It got like an albatross boyfriend, just weighing me down, man. So glad to be rid of it.

In my house we call that "Shameless." Something we once loved completely, just go too drawn out, too redundant. So the other night I say "Shameless is back, do you want to watch it?" and he very clearly said NOPE.

OMG you've seen eight episodes of the Crown?? And I bet you can't tell us a darn thing! I respect you for that, but arrrrrghhhh!!!

I can tell you it's very good. I can tell you I knew nothing at all about the 1966 slurry disaster at Aberfan, Wales, and now I do. So tragic.

Regular watcher here. It's fine. It's not insanely witty like Veep, but it's not lowest common denominator garbage like Two and a Half Men either. Just a nice serviceable comedy when you want to chill and turn your brain off for a while. Like you always say, Hank, is this show good at what it is trying to do? I say yes.

Good answer.

I wholeheartedly agree with your opinion that we must not regress into re-watching TV shows for comfort's sake. However, that stance gets a little shaky when I'm home sick because you need to binge but don't have a lot of mental bankwidth. Last time I had an extended illness, I stuck to my guns and eschewed the West Wing for the new-to-me Below Deck(s), which I love. Well, I just got hit by the flu and am going to need something streaming that doesn't require too much intellectual investment or attention span. Basically, I'm looking for bad TV, but not BAD bad TV. Any recommendations? I don't like medical shows (so no Dr. Pimple Popper) or Kardashians or Housewives. I do like Project Runway, Ink Master, and Top Chef, Drunk History. Hm--I don't know why all of these are unscripted shows. Maybe those seem like the most likely candidates? Scripted, I like Empire, This Is Us, Big Little Lies, Madam Secretary. (I know this is a completely out-of-left-field question and probably pretty rambling. That's the flu talking, and clearly I need help.)

Queer Eye? Nailed It? Married at First Sight?

Just throwing those out there.

Hi Hank - What did you think of that end montage in Deuce with Vince seeing the ghosts of the previously departed? It was such a departure from previous Simon/Pelecanos series, but I think it worked for me. My quibble with it is that it centered Vince too much, even when he didn't drive a lot of the plots. Separately - I found David Simon's defense of James Franco and his interview with Alan Sepinwall, baffling and disappointing. Plus arrogant. Your thoughts?

I thought this season of "The Deuce" might have been its best, but it's hard to say. I didn't mind the fact it was Vince who took that 2019 stroll through Times Square -- and it really was an effective look at what our lives look like now, what became of it all. It's a tad cheesy to have him hallucinate all the characters drifting by, though Maggie Gyllenhaal, as always, had the best last line, which was maybe a sly reference on the show itself. ("Nobody saw it!" Hahaha.)

As for the Franco stuff and Simon's interview, I just don't have the energy to get all that worked up about it. I guess I'm saving it for a bigger outrage.

In the Halloween Peanuts Cartoon, every house gives candy to every child, except Charlie Brown. He gets a rock from each and every parent! First, they had to have rock available at their door when Charlie Brown showed up, and they also had to know that He wouldn't immediately turn to "Trick" and throw the rock back into one of their windows. Just what kind of neighborhood does the Peanuts Gang live in? . . . . . . . . Also, who told Linus that crazy story about the "Great Pumpkin"? Nowadays, we'd think it came from the Internet!

I think we understood Charlie Brown better back in his time. In this era of super-positivity, emotional enrichment and vigilant parenting, the joke of a kid getting all rocks in his Halloween bag just does. not. compute. It's another example of how much better we used to be at processing the idea that sometimes you just can't win.

Kirsten Dunst received well-deserved praise for her work, but I just wanted to give some credit to Ted Levine. I liked him in The Bridge (which I thought was an uneven show), but he seemed to be having a great time as Obie, a character who was both funny and kind of scary.

I'm so disappointed that AMC decided to cancel Lodge 49. I feel like it really started to come together this season. It's funny! It's mystical! Wyatt Russell as Dud knocks it out of the park. This was a good show. Shame on AMC. Hopefully someone picks it up for Season 3. Maybe send an email to your boss.

I have really enjoyed this series on PBS. I love the quirky humor of the eccentric family. The series finale this past Sunday evening was a bittersweet goodbye to a cast of wonderful actors. Still watching The Walking Dead on AMC but am tired of the nasty evil people who show up and want to destroy the harmony of efforts to restart a humane civilization. Watching the Watchmen but have to admit to being confused at what is happening at time. Especially with Jeremy Iron's character. Thought he was Dr Manhattan but his surroundings are too lush and green to be Mars. Those characters really seem unrelated to the story line with Regina King and others. I will have to watch again!

Or, as we've already discussed, just keep watching forward. It will start to come together.

Did anyone else enjoy the terrible novel in last Thursday's The Good Place as much as I did? It was stuff like, "Her eyes were the brownest brown, like a brown crayon." and "She had a voice like the Queen of England, but without all the gross face parts."


Caught the tail end of The Resident the other night as I was waiting for Empire to come on and, sigh. Jane, why did you do that to your beautiful face? I understand the pressure--well, no I don't because I'm not an actress of a certain age in misogynist, perfectionist Hollywood. But she and so many others were so lovely! I would have liked to have seen them age naturally, rather than having them feel the need to slowly turn themselves into Madam Toussaud exhibits. Sad state of affairs.

That was in the first season. They had to invent the Secretary character, though. Do you find yourself wishing they would FF to Princess Diana's Death?

No, because the same folks have already made that, as a very good movie called "The Queen," starring Helen Mirren.

There is a great Stuff You Missed in History Class episode about Aberfan - it's so tragic and horrifying but also fascinating. Definitely the part I am most curious about during this season in terms of actual events.

Weird coincidence was my grandparents lived in the small Irish coastal village where Lord Mountbatten was blown up on his fishing boat. You mentioned not taking actors previous roles into their next roles, but I admit it's going to hard to not see "Tywin Lannister" when he becomes Lord Mountbatten who has been a nice character, particularly to Prince Charles, so far in "The Crown".

It's a good part for Dance, and not always nice, as you shall see.

Top two for me are Netflix and Prime -- and Prime edges out HBO GO only because of the Amazon benefits. I signed up for Hulu for Handmaids Tale and was going to unsubscribe after the season ended, but I get it for essentially free with my Spotify subscription so I might as well keep it. Will be interested to see if Apple+ or Disney entice me away to them...

Disney, I believe, will offer a package of Disney +, Hulu and ESPN, if that sways people.

"The Good Wife" - even if you've watched it before (it really holds up to the repeat viewing and holds my attention long enough to get me to stay on rowing machine for 40+ minutes) and even more so if you haven't. It's on Prime and you must start with Season 1, ep 1. But if you only watch a bit and wait until you are next ill to pick it up again, you'll be fine.

OP is a "Madam Secretary" watcher, if I recall correctly, so probably already hep to "Good Wife," but thanks.

"You're jealous on a municipal level?" Hank, these chats (and your comments) are the best! We'll miss you next week, when you're off in England visiting Midsomer Murder country.


Robot Chicken. They're only 15 minute episodes!

The Great British Baking Show just finished its latest season, and you can see the whole thing on Netflix. It's about lovely people who are trying to accomplish something for low stakes. Winner gets a cake stand.

Unsure about it being leftwing or not, it was weird reading how much effect "The Crown" did to deal with Olivia Colman having brown eyes instead of blue eyes like the real Elizabeth II and Claire Foy. I mean they cast 6"4 and American Jon Lithgow to portray "English bulldog" notoriously stout Sir Winston Churchill and he won an Emmy.

I have enjoyed it thoroughly without noticing her eyes. Smile, yes; stature, yes. She nails it.

Avoid cable news! Go with BBC's Planet Earth series.

I'm watching the new season from Japan but am a bit put off by the subtitles. I'm fine with subtitles in general, but so much of this show is people's reactions, including the cast, and I can't watch them because I'm busy reading. Plus people in Japan seem to be more reserved, while I'm used to a lot more screaming and YAAAASSS Queen! Of course I still love them and will watch them go anywhere, but there's been no Miss Tammy happy cry-fest yet.

It's weird how every season the British press gets seized on some fictionalized (and most than likely untrue) plotline in the show i.e. Prince Philip's sister's death in plane crash. https://www.dailybreak.com/break/the-crown-prince-philip-false-storyline This year it's Charles and Camilla. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2019/11/04/crown-season-3-netflix-drama-depicts-fictional-plot-split-prince/

The least interesting episode of the eight I've seen so far, if you really want to know, is the Charles-meets-Camilla one.

Hi - stumbled across the first couple episodes of "Living with Yourself," the new Paul Rudd vehicle on Netflix. Pretty good so far, I think, but I haven't found much press on it. Something you've looked at? Thoughts?

It was one of my "5 shows you can skip" in my Fall TV Preview, but that doesn't sound like the encouragement you were hoping for.

Okay, we made it. Off you go to watch more television and off I go to also watch more television.

See you back here in TWO weeks, on Thursday, Nov. 21.

Thanks everyone!

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Hank Stuever
Hank Stuever, The Washington Post's TV critic since 2009, joined the paper in 1999 as a writer for the Style section, where he has covered an array of popular (and unpopular) culture across the nation. Stuever was born and raised in Oklahoma and previously worked at newspapers in Albuquerque and Austin. He lives in Washington, D.C.
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