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April 12, 2010

1:29
P.M.

Southern Republican Leadership Conference

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Host: David  Weigel

David Weigel

David Weigel writes the Right Now blog for The Washington Post, which he describes as: "The goal of this blog will be to explain what the right is doing, thinking, and planning as it hurtles toward the possible salvation of the 2010 midterm elections."

About the topic

This weekend's Southern Republican Leadership Conference featured appearances by Sarah Palin Haley Barbour, Newt Gingrich and other top Republicans, discussing the future of the party.

David Weigel attended the SRLC and took your questions about what he saw, the outcome of the presidential straw poll and his new blog, Right Now .
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ORLY!

First, congratulations on making the big time. Second, does this new gig mean you won't be lampooning the birthers as much as before? Orly Taitz is running for California Sec of State, so she still provides plenty of chuckles.
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David Weigel :

First, thanks! Second, I've tried to live by a rule about the birthers. I did not always live by this rule. When I started writing about the parallel universe of Obama conspiracy theories, it was such a novelty that I posted on anything strange that I could find. It was a shock to me that the movement didn't peter out. So last summer, when it really hit the big time, I invented this rule -- only if the birtherism involves powerful people, or a way to separate activists from their paychecks, will I pay attention. So a member of Congress endorsing the conspiracy = news. Orly Taitz blogging something = good for traffic, but not news.

– April 12, 2010 1:32 PM
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Birthers "conspiracy"

Please don't tell me, Mr. Weigel, that you KNOW for sure that Obama is a natural-born citizen?
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David Weigel :

Just as the government of Washington, D.C. can verify my citizenship and my driver's license, the government of Hawaii has verified that Barack Obama was born there. That's where I come down these days. And I'm convinced that Democrats, who know how good the birthers are for them, crack smiles whenever someone suggests that we need to know more.

– April 12, 2010 1:35 PM
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Confederate Month

Haley Barbour, Governor of Mississippi, said there is nothing wrong with Governor McDonnell of Virginia declaring a Confederate Month. The support might be more effective if the Governors of New Jersey or Inidana, both Republicans in good standing, came to McDonnell's aid.
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Paul Williams :
– April 12, 2010 1:40 PM
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David Weigel :

Ah, that's the cruelty of the news cycle -- had reporters gathered this weekend in Trenton for the Mid-Atlantic Republican Assembly or what have you, they would have gotten someone else to answer the question. I roll my eyes a little at the DNC's decision to pile on Barbour about this, but I understand it -- they know no Southern Republican will criticize a decision to honor the Confederacy. In his first gubernatorial campaign against Ronnie Musgrove, Barbour reminded voters of the 2001 referendum to pull the stars and bars off of the state flag. And Barbour won.

– April 12, 2010 1:40 PM
Q.

Judge Nomination

What issues in a judge's history do you think will prompt a filibuster for a new judge, and was this discussed much in N.O?

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David Weigel :

To my surprise, this didn't often come up in NOLA. Most Republicans realize that the chance of stopping an Obama nominee with 41 seats in the Senate is not just remote, but unprecedented. (Let's remember, the last judge to be denied a seat on the court, Robert Bork, faced a Democratic majority, not a Democratic filibuster.)

If Elena Kagan is nominated, as a lot of us expect, you're going to hear some under-the-rader questions about her sexuality. Same thing if Janet Napolitano is nominated. (Matt Drudge, don't think we haven't noticed that you illustrate every Homeland Security story with an ugly picture of Napolitano and the caption "BIG SIS.") I think that's the ugly answer you were looking for. What actual judicial issues? If the Goodwin Liu and Harold Koh battles are any indication, and I think they are, expect Republicans to go after what the nominee has written -- not just ruled -- about health care, international law, and guns.

– April 12, 2010 1:45 PM
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Question on history and Romney

It is the analysis of political science historians that Republicans have a tendancy to reward losing but tested finishers for the Presidential nomination with a future nomination.

  • Goldwater lost to Nixon in 1960 and was nominated in 1964.
  • Reagan lost to Ford in 1976 but was nominated in 1980.
  • Bush lost to Reagan in 1980 but was nominated in 1988.
  • Dole lost to Bush in 1988 but was nominated in 1996.
  • McCain lost to Bush in 2000 but was nominated in 2008.
  • By that history, Mitt Romney should be the nominee in 2012.

What are your thoughts, both on this tendency of Republicans to go for "tested" candidates, and on how Republicans seem to think of Romney.

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David Weigel :

No offense, but I don't generally like factoids like this. They don't appreciate all of the historical and logistical factors that went into work in those races. For one thing, literally every one of those campaigns happened under a slightly different primary system, with different amounts of time between the elections, and different states up for grabs. That said, Republicans are very forgiving of also-ran candidates who watched the guy the party nominated go down to defeat. And a lot of Republicans will tell you that Romney, for all his flaws, would never have bobbled the economic crisis the way that McCain did in 2008. How much sympathy does that get him compared to the anger out there about "Romneycare" in Massachusetts? Hard to say, but Romney is on far, far more comfortable ground defending his health care plan than he was pretending to be a social conservative. I can imagine a situation like the one we saw in the early 2008 Democratic debates, where candidates tried to drag Hillary Clinton down over her war vote but she'd gamed out their attacks 1,000 different ways.

– April 12, 2010 1:54 PM
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Who are you?

Can you explain more about Right Now? At first, I thought you were like the Russ Douthat here, a new voice for conservative views. Then I saw you on the Rachel Maddow Show and you seemed to be on her wavelength instead. Are you an objective observer of the American right wing or even a progressive critic? Any of the above would be fine, but helpful to know in understanding your writing in such a personal format as a blog.
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David Weigel :

This is a reported blog, so it's never going to be a place for my "voice" -- if I'm doing it well, it's a place to find out what conservatives are doing, saying, and thinking, with analysis but not bias. When I'm interviewed on radio or TV I look for points of agreement and ways to explain what's going on, but I wouldn't say I agree with Rachel Maddow. I actually like the tea party movement, for one. I never use the notorious word that ends with "baggers."

My personal politics are libertarian; my votes are all over the place. I voted for Ron Paul in the 2008 primary but Obama-Biden in the 2008 general election, in part because Bob Barr wasn't on the ballot. I voted for the GOP's local city council candidates. I'm still a registered Republican.

– April 12, 2010 2:00 PM
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Reflection

Was there any reflection about the way Republicans governed in the early part of the decade?
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David Weigel :

Yes, from Rick Santorum and Mike Pence, among some other speakers. It was of a piece of the cricism you've heard from conservative Republicans since, really, February 2001 -- that the problem with George W. Bush was that his "compassionate conservatism" expanded the government. Both agreed, and most attendees agreed, that the tea party-infused GOP would never make that mistake again. Were you asking about Katrina? Some reflection there, some praise of how Republicans like Haley Barbour, Bobby Jindal, Rick Perry had responded to the hurricane and how their states had rebuilt.

– April 12, 2010 2:05 PM
Q.

ME

Any talk at the SRLC of getting out of Iraq or Afghanistan?

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David Weigel :

Only from Ron Paul. I've got my eye on that, though. There is some reluctance among congressional Republicans about supporting the effort in Afghanistan. There is, as of no, no such reluctance from the conservative base.

– April 12, 2010 2:08 PM
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Supreme Court filibuster

Since Stevens was originally appointed to federal bench by Nixon (and elevated to the Supreme Court by Ford), why can't the GOP insist that his replacement not be a liberal idealogue? They would if something happened to Scalia or Roberts.
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David Weigel :

Thurgood Marshall was replaced by Clarence Thomas. That's really all the argument a Democrat might need on this one. All Republicans can do is work the refs a bit by demanding a moderate nominee and issuing statements about being "disappointed" when Obama picks a liberal.

– April 12, 2010 2:09 PM
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2012 GOP race

If Palin wins the GOP nomination, you don't think it's at least possible she beats Obama?
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David Weigel :

It's "at least possible" that Bob Dornan makes an incredible comeback, wins the nomination, and carries 50 states. So, sure -- if a lot of lightning strikes, Palin could win the nomination and tap her hotter-than-the-center-of-the-sun support among conservatives to win it all. If Obama's support collapses, many Republicans would have the ability to take him out. But the most meaningful result of the SRLC straw poll was Palin's third place showing. She showed up, the crowd was bedecked in her merchandise, and 82% of Southern Republican activists said someone other than her should be their nominee. There's just widespread doubt that she's ready for the job.

– April 12, 2010 2:15 PM
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'work the refs'

"All Republicans can do is work the refs a bit by demanding a moderate nominee and issuing statements about being "disappointed" when Obama picks a liberal."

Won't Republicans claim whomever Obama picks is a "liberal," regardless of how moderate s/he is?

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David Weigel :

Yes. Ask Cass Sunstein, who's pretty hard to fit into a box, but whom WorldNetDaily and Glenn Beck have (successfuly) portrayed as a raving communist. And from the GOP's perspective, anyone who believes in an evolving interpretation of the Constitution, instead of a close reading of original intent, is a liberal, unfit for the court.

– April 12, 2010 2:18 PM
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3d party danger

Was there any discussion - perhaps whispered - at SRLC about the possibility of losing some close races via Tea Party candidates siphoning votes? I realize that the Tea Party draws support from Dems as well but as I understand it they draw more from traditional GOP demographics. I imagine Dems defending a hypothetical close House seat as follows: 49% Dem 48% GOP 3% Tea Party - a bit like the Nader effect but in reverse. Thoughts?
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David Weigel :

There was, and it wasn't whispered. Haley Barbour explicitly asked activists to make sure tea partiers stayed within the party.

I don't think third party efforts can thrive unless the party they're siphoning from is already in power. Under those conditions, the base gets frustrated and wants to send a message. That's not the case now. Even the most Republican-hating tea partier wants to overthrow the Democrats.

– April 12, 2010 2:20 PM
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What happened to Newt Gingrich?

I knew from the Clinton years that Gingrich had a holy-warrior mentality when it comes to politics, but I wasn't prepared for his current stance of embodying that literally. I don't remember him sounding before like a reincarnation of Jerry Falwell, particularly his boneheaded bashing of Obama as "secular" as if that was a bad trait for government. In your estimation, did Gingrich always favor blurring the line between church and state and he's now more open about, or is he simply trying to keep the religious right loyal to the Republican Party and not the Tea Party? It was only two years ago that leaders like James Dobson were suggesting a boycott of the GOP when McCain was in the lead for the nomination.
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David Weigel :

That's a good catch. Gingrich has become more religious in the past few years. In 2007 he made a "confession" of infidelity to James Dobson. In 2009 he converted to Catholicism. He's spent more of his copious book-writing and documentary-producing time on political/religious material, like the documentary about the Pope's 1979 visit to Poland that he likes to promote in his speeches. I can't read his mind, but I can say that this has made him, bit by bit, more credible to religious conservatives. What's he want to do with that credibility? We'll see.

– April 12, 2010 2:25 PM
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Comic Appearance

After having something featured in a Captain America comic, which comic would you like to appear in next?
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David Weigel :

Robert Kirkman's "The Walking Dead." A zombie role would be preferable, but I'd settle for being a survivor.

– April 12, 2010 2:27 PM
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Ron Paul

With the strong showing on first choice and virtually none on the second choice poll question. Is your sense that there is no chance he could be the nominee in 2012?
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David Weigel :

Virtually no chance, and I say "virtually" just to allow for a situation where Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty and Mike Huckabee get lost when the National Review cruise falls into the Bermuda triangle. The majority of people who vote in Republican primaries simply don't share his views on foreign policy.

I would not be surprised if Paul tests the waters. I know that some people in his camp want him to go for it. But I don't think he'd benefit from the scrutiny of another run. Remember, it took a full year for reporters to take him seriously enough to investigate his ties to some unsavory groups and views. Even then, because reporters knew he was not winning the nomination, the stories went nowhere. But that's not what would happen if he launched a new campaign and started polling in double digits. Let's see what he says after his son Rand's Senate primary.

– April 12, 2010 2:31 PM
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Tea Parties

When will the press face up the fact that this is an Astroturf concept cocktailed up by Dick Armey and Fox News?

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David Weigel :

Never, because it's not. Look, Dick Armey left Congress in 2003, and the Kochs have been funding libertarian causes for decades. But the tea parties didn't begin until 2009. There wasn't the outrage, the access to social networks, the new media, or the economic climate to make this happen, much less to let Dick Armey induce it. Yes, it's worth covering how much Fox News has done to wrangle more conservatives into this movement, but the movement started before Fox News was paying attention.

– April 12, 2010 2:35 PM
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Media Elite

How do you find yourself treated at Tea Party events, or at this weekend's GOP Big Easy Extravaganza, for that matter? Do teapartiers challenge you, your credentials, or your viewpoint when you show up to cover their events?
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David Weigel :

I'm often asked a point-blank question like "Do you print the truth?" Often I'm asked whether or not I agree with them. But it's very rare that the person I'm talking to gets angry at me for asking questions. By and large they're happy for the conversation and the coverage. And that's even true of the people who say things that end up bouncing around the liberal blogosphere, as representative of the "racism" or what have you within the movement.

– April 12, 2010 2:40 PM
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Ron Paul's Legacy

I like Ron Paul but not on foreign-policy issues. I also don't think he's electable. Too old and tied to too many loonies on the Right, which, I should add, is my side of the political aisle. What I'd like to see is someone younger who can tackle the size and scope of government the way Paul has, but without the baggage that would make the person an easy target for those who want to link him/her with the fringe. Who's out there taking up Paul's mantle and well positioned for national office in 2012?
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David Weigel :

Former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson is trying, with mixed success. He's affable but journalists I talk to are disappointed with his ability to seriously engage on the issues. Wayne Allyn Root, who ran for vice president in 2008 on the Libertarian ticket, is probably going to run, bolstered by the celebrity he's starting to attain on Fox News and the tea party circuit. The tragedy for Paul fans is that the man best equipped to pick up the torch was... Mark Sanford.

– April 12, 2010 2:44 PM
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Arlington, VA

David, you know the GOP and their allies as well as anyone in serious journalism at the moment. In candid, off-the-record moments, do you get any sense that anyone on the Right (other than Lindsay Graham) has any qualms about the party's near-total disregard of the claims of most climate scientists concerning the likely future of the planet? Or is the GOP's confidence in its view of science so solid that conservatives really are willing to bet the planet that they are right? As a layman, it's difficult for me to understand this. Please help. Thanks.
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David Weigel :

On the contrary, I encounter more and more skepticism of climate change. My old colleague Ron Bailey at Reason takes a lot of flak (I almost typed "heat," which would have been a pun too far) for maintaining that climate change is happening. As long as we have fairly normal seasonal weather in the United States -- especially cold winters -- you're going to hear more conservatives doubting the science.

– April 12, 2010 2:46 PM
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A Mathematical Question

If you were to draw a Venn diagram of the Tea Partiers and the religious right, what would it look like? I detect a great deal of overlap among the ones I've encountered from both groups, but my experience may not be typical.
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David Weigel :

I don't think I can create a suitable ASCII diagram for you, but there's plenty of overlap -- for now. Tea partiers are first and foremost economic conservatives. The religious right is first and foremost concerned with social issues. But right now they're working arm in arm, with social conservatives (Ralph Reed, Tony Perkins) trying to claim some of the energy of the movement, and tea partiers happily to work with these activists who, by and large, share their beliefs.

"By and large" leaves a lot of room for disagreement, though. If Republicans control every branch of government in 2013, I'd expect many tea partiers to blanch at -- and possibly protest against -- some of the priorities of, say, the Family Research Council. I meet plenty of gay, anarchist, libertarian, and just generally "leave us alone" tea partiers who absolutely despise the Ralph Reeds of the world. It's just that they have a common enemy now and they'll look past it. But the majority of tea partiers are social conservatives, even if it's not what got them into the streets, and they will have no problems working with the religious right.

That's it for me, but I had a great time. My apologies if I didn't answer your question -- come back next time or come right over to the blog and ask it!

– April 12, 2010 2:54 PM
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