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Pulitzer Prize winner, Peabody recipient, Medal of Freedom honoree -- Lisa de Moraes is none of these, but she is an authority on the bad direction, over-acting, and muddled plot lines being played out in the TV industry's executive suites. de Moraes worked for a decade as the television editor at The Hollywood Reporter, the entertainment industry trade paper, where she was routinely on the receiving end of more shouting phone calls from TV suits than Paula Abdul's manager.
When she upgraded to The Washington Post in 1998, a well-known executive producer called to suggest she have someone else start her car, but her trenchant writing (and refusal to use words like "trenchant") earned her the following praise from the brilliant, handsome media observer at Slate: "She writes like a wicked bitch." Wikipedia has called her "a noted television columnist," but they're often unreliable. It's pronounced "deh more ICE."
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When she upgraded to The Washington Post in 1998, a well-known executive producer called to suggest she have someone else start her car, but her trenchant writing (and refusal to use words like "trenchant") earned her the following praise from the brilliant, handsome media observer at Slate: "She writes like a wicked bitch." Wikipedia has called her "a noted television columnist," but they're often unreliable. It's pronounced "deh more ICE."
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Q.
30 Rock
Thoughts on the finale? I have to admit I lost interest after the first couple of years, even though I love Tina Fey.
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Lisa de Moraes :
Series finales are hard -- almost as hard to do as pilots -- in the former writers are always tempted to wrap things up with a neat little bow, and in the latter they have to set the stage and introduce all the characters. Usually, what works best is to toss out all those rules -- like the St. Elsewhere finale which is still the best ever, followed by that Newhart series finale. The "30 Rock" finale was okay, little treacly, but served its purpose... but then I never lost interest in the show...
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"Elementary" has been turned into "CSI."
Is that what happened to this show? It started out so promising and I enjoyed the first few episodes. Then, all of the sudden the plots began to get extremely convoluted and the show seemed to suffer from a sever lack of joy.
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Lisa de Moraes :
Yeah, it seems highly contageous over at CBS, this "CSI"-pox....
Q.
Te'o's Telling Tales
Hey Te'o, your 16 minutes are up already. Just admit that you have feelings for this guy so you can move on....even Gomer Pyle came out and got married!
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Lisa de Moraes :
Did you see Dr. Phil's interview yesterday with the guy who perpetrated the fraud -- Ronaiah Tuiasosopo -- who still insists the voice in the phone calls with Te'o was his? If you missed it, he steadfastly refused to speak in the "female" voice to Dr. Phil and left viewers feeling he was not telling the truth and protecting someone else who participated in the ruse....
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No Netflix
I spend all of my money on Satellite TV, Pookie. How do I get "House of Cards"?
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Lisa de Moraes :
you subscribe to netflix
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30 Rock - Novice Viewer
Hi Lisa. First of all, I love your columns. You frequently make me laugh out loud.
I watched the season finale of "30 Rock." Thank heavens for Netflix, because now I want to watch all 7 seasons. No, I'd never seen "30 Rock" before last night; lash me with a wet noodle. I can understand why critics loved it and why audiences (sorta) shunned it. The writing was smart and the wit was quick. Which doesn't mean all TV audiences are dull or slow-witted, but watching such a show requires an intellectual commitment that one isn't always up for. What do you think?
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Lisa de Moraes :
I think it would've been a called a hit had it clocked these numbers (about 4.8 million last night for series finale) had it run on HBO ....Unfortunately it aired on NBC during that network's sad years and so couldn't be hammocked between two hit series for protection. If your only experience with "30 Rock" was last night's show and you really are going to watch all 7 seasons, you're in for a treat, because last night's finale was most definitely not its best work...
Q.
30 ROCK FINALE
Jack's idea of the clear dishwasher was sheer genius. I would so buy one.
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Lisa de Moraes :
Me too, I'm sorry to admit I thought as I was watching the episode.... But then, I'll watch a cat watching a fire in a fireplace....
Q.
Hi Pookie!
Just wanted to say hello! My Outlook calendar reminder re: "weekly Friday conference call" just came up again. :-)
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Lisa de Moraes :
Hello! We are, of course, going to address the U.S. adding 157K jobs in January on today's conference call, in case your boss asks
Q.
Jon Stewart???
Lisa, unless you were trolling for page views, explain how you can honestly state that Jon Stewart "shot himself in the foot". Other than letting Costas sit on a stack of phone books and make himself even more insufferable, Stewart did nothing of the kind. He doesn't choose what commercials run during his show, you know.
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Lisa de Moraes :
No, but he knows they're coming, as he specifically said the next night on the show, when he told his guest they were going to take a break for some violent programming ads.. Leading Costas down that path with that question was dicey, as illustrated when Costas immediately launched into his argument about not being able to throw a brick on TV without hitting a "Bullet to the Head" ad -- Stewart's show had just come back from airing such an ad... note Stewart responded by turning it into a joke, thereby letting the air out of that conversation....
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Moving On, the Te'o Story
I'm all Te'o and Ronaiah'd out. Next scandal please.
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Lisa de Moraes :
accepting applications....
Q.
Super Bowl or Puppy Bowl?
Which one do you watch Pookie?
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Lisa de Moraes :
Both. The beauty of Puppy Bowl is that it's recorded ages ago and Animal Planet starts running it before the game....
Q.
30 Rock Ended
On NPR, they called it the show most responsible for the ending of Must See TV on NBC Thursday Night. Was that a good thing, or a bad thing?
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Lisa de Moraes :
Jeff Zucker was most responsible for the end of Must See TV on NBC Thursday night -- not "30 Rock." Shows aren't responsible -- executives are. And, if you want NBC to remain a robust broadcast network, it was not a good thing. Which is why Bob Greenblatt has said, to the chagrin of TV critics, that NBC is looking to "broaden out" its Thursday lineup. He later modified it -- when critics began to make shrill noises of protest -- to, looking for "more inclusive" programming or something like that...
Q.
30 Rock finale
Hey, Pookie:
What did you think of the "30 Rock" finale last night? Did it satisfy you? Have the right amount of humor and irreverence?
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Lisa de Moraes :
I thought it was good -- not for-the-record-books brilliant, but good. I'm happy.
Q.
St. Elsewhere
Oh goodness no, St. Elsewhere was one of the worst finales.
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Lisa de Moraes :
sorry, pookster, but it's generally acknowledged to be one of the very best series finales ever -- as evidenced by the fact people are still talking about it...
Q.
$16 per word for Palin
I bet Stephen King doesn't earn that for his latest book!
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Lisa de Moraes :
I haven't counted but my guess is you're right!
Q.
House of Cards
I am going to watch it, knowing full well that there will never EVER be another Francis F.U. Urqhart. I'm thinking it's going to be a Prime Suspect redux (then again, we are all talking about it, so score one for Netflix, I guess)
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Lisa de Moraes :
NBC already did a Prime Suspect redux. It was dreadful....
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Satellite TV guy
If you can't subscribe to Netflix, try downloading it via bit torrent.
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Lisa de Moraes :
thanks for that advice to satellite subscriber
Q.
the inevitable disappointment
I heard 30 Rock was going to have every single guest star it ever had on the finale-- I was really geared up to see Michael Sheen's Wesley Snipes make a return-- so I guess my expectations were too high. No Matt Damon, no Jon Hamm, no Edie Falco (who would've made way more sense than Pelosi); also, it would've been nice to see Rachel Dratch in the finale- but I guess Fey napalmed that bridge already.
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Lisa de Moraes :
you mean like how "Lost" producers promised they were going to answer all our questions in the final season and then didn't?
Q.
BEST SERIES FINALES
I agree w/ you Pookie St Elsewhere finale was very good if not ground-breaking. How about MASH as best ever finale. It's ratings would bear that out also don't you think. Or Cheers finale, loved that one.
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Lisa de Moraes :
All good...but St. Elsewhere was best because we didn't see it coming...
Q.
Do No Harm
Apparently no one watch it. Does it really suck that bad? Should I try to catch one before it goes away just for the yucks?
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Lisa de Moraes :
Don't bother...
Q.
Pookie Panic Syndrome
Live chat tech difficulties, elimination of Emily Yahr function, and Celebritologist Jen sudden exit - can you blame me now for panicking if your upcoming chat isn't listed or gets cancelled? It's like the 10 seconds between when I wake up in the morning and confirm my 14-year-old dog is still breathing... However, I hear Wikipedia is raking in oodles with their on-line "please contribute" banner. Any chance the WaPo chats could get such a button? I'm never going to buy a WaPo subscription, but I (and I bet a lot of others here) would happily donate a honking amount if there was a "click-and-donate" feature. (I'm surely not the only overpaid lawyer here reveling in my hour of snarky escapism!)
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Lisa de Moraes :
I have those same few seconds some mornings, except I'm trying to figure out where I am and who I am...does that count? Meanwhile, hoping your 14 year old dog is doing well....and thanks for joining us in the snarky escapism hour
Q.
thanks for that advice to satellite subscriber...to break the law
Downloading Netflix's copyrighted material, outside of Netflix's site, would be illegal. You weren't just advising a reader to break the law, right?
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Lisa de Moraes :
I was trying to stay out of it...
Q.
SERIES FINALES
I loved The Sopranos. Don't know if I'm in the minority on this one but I liked the mystery at the end not really sure what happened. Seinfeld's was terrible. Any thoughts?
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Lisa de Moraes :
Seinfeld's was The Worst Ever -- because our expectations were so high....even Larry David has proclaimed it a disaster area, I think...
Q.
Senior Moment
I loved St Elsewhere! But for the life of me I can't remember the finale....synopsis, please.....
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Lisa de Moraes :
Finale revealed the whole run of the show tohave been a fantasy in the head of Westphall's autistic son... a humdinger of an ending
Q.
Pookie
I just wanted to say Thanks again for continuing to chat with us.
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Lisa de Moraes :
absolutely my pleasure....thanks for joining us.
Q.
Best series finale
For me, it was Newhart, when Bob turned on the bedroom light and said to Emily that he'd had the weirdest dream about being a New England innkeeper. I don't think anyone saw that coming.
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Lisa de Moraes :
also great!
Q.
Prime Suspect redux
THat's exactly my point- it's trying to fit a square peg into a round hole when trying to translate British shows into American markets. Prime Suspect, Coupling, Spaced, the Office (deal with it), Downton Abbey (it's gonna be a trainwreck if it ever gets greenlit); the adaptations tend to be AWFUL.
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Lisa de Moraes :
On the other hand, some are brilliant, like "All in the Family."
Q.
going down memory lane... ABC/Disney movies
We were talking at work the other day about how back in the early 90s... and the 80s... ABC/Disney would, perhaps once a month, do a movie on Saturday/Sunday night. Eisner would introduce it, through in a little joke or two, while sitting at his desk. Whatever happened to family stuff like that? Lost out due to $$?
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Lisa de Moraes :
One of the problems for broadcasters with the Sunday movie is that, as the audience became more fragmented and the nets had to ratchet up promos for their series, the movie gobbled up too much promo time... the franchise had to be sold every single week to those people who only watched when the flick was a title in which they were interested, or the star that week, or whatever. Networks instead decided to fill Sunday with more easily sustained franchises -- aka series, like "Desperate Housewives"
Q.
Clarification, please
" elimination of Emily Yahr function." Wha? Huh?
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Lisa de Moraes :
Not sure what that chatter was referencing there.... Emily's not either, but is anxious to know if that person knows something she doesn't know but should...me too. We await your response.
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"we didn't see it coming"
I think by that standard, the ending to "Newhart" is the best ending ever. I thought it was better than "St. Elsewhere>" By the way, do you disagree that the ending to "Seinfeld" has to be the worst ever?
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Lisa de Moraes :
I'm willing to entertain the newhart show ending as being tops too...and totally on board the Seinfeld finale hate-train...
Q.
Seinfeld
Yes, that finale was terrible. It was essentially a clip show. (I think of the last true episode as the series finale.) Larry David reunited the cast on Curb Your Enthusiasm as a do over.
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Lisa de Moraes :
Thanks for reminding us of David's make-good!
Q.
Netflix House of Cards
I watched the first episode this morning. It was pretty good, but I really don't like it when characters talk directly to the audience. That only really works on the stage.
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Lisa de Moraes :
It's a device that was used in the British original, where it worked beautifully...
Q.
30 Rock vs. BBT
30 Rock is available on demand. BBT isn't. So, sorry Tina.
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Lisa de Moraes :
excellent point. CBS wins.. sorry Tina.
Q.
Good series Finale
Mash was the best.
Cheers was a good one...though it could have been better.
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Lisa de Moraes :
Cheers was okay, MASH was fantastic and remains one of the most watched program in American TV history when measured in terms of the percentage of the population watching...nearly 80 percent of the country watched that finale...
Q.
Talk to the Audience
Best-done example of breaking the fourth wall: George Burns on Burns and Allen. Runner-up: Rocky and Bullwinkle. Yep, I'm old ... and nostalgic.
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Lisa de Moraes :
No apologizing needed here...
Q.
HIMYM
Ugh. I'm going to have to sit through another year of this? That Mother better be worth it.
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Lisa de Moraes :
My money's on Lily. Marshall meets with some tragic end, Dad marries Lily, the kids are his stepkids... any other theories?
Q.
WaPo Health Page Spoiler
I usually run a week or two behind on my shows so imagine my annoyance when I was reading a story on the WaPo health page the other day and noticed a link on the side to another story on the health page discussing the death of a major character in Downton Abbey! The name of the character was right in the title! I thought I'd be safe from TV spoilers in the health page. You really need to educate with your colleagues in that section on TV etiquette!
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Lisa de Moraes :
I can't speak for our health writers, but that character died six months ago in the UK and there have been press rep0rts on it ever since... More importantely, as I was writing yesterday about Super Bowl ads being released early, I was wondering why no one ever complains about all those spoilers ruining their Super Bowl viewing experience... and I swore I'd ask the next person who complained on this chat about spoilers how they feel about all the Super Bowl ads that are "leaked" in advance of the game.. and, you're it! Does that bother you too? I'm not being snarky, seriously want to know...
Q.
Other great finales
How I Met Your Mother! Oh wait, they are still beating that dead horse. Never mind ...
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Lisa de Moraes :
I think next season really most sincerely will be the last... Jason Segel wants out...
Q.
HIMYM - Lily??
Hasn't Ted referred to her as "Aunt Lily"? I know he's referred to Marshall as "Uncle Marshall"...
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Lisa de Moraes :
details, details...
Q.
downton abbey
Quick comment....hating this season.
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Lisa de Moraes :
you are not alone, if that helps....
Q.
ratings for good finales
I always hear that a show's ratings did really well last night because the episode was so good. But the viewers didn't know it was going to be good. In other words, MASH's finale being fantastic has nothing to do with its great ratings for the night. What am I missing?
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Lisa de Moraes :
MASH was such a phenom in its day...I can't think of a show that's on now that holds the same place in the cultural zeitgeist... It was a very very big deal when that show ended. Also there were not nearly so many viewing choices...
Q.
That's not staying out of it...
By even posting an illegal method for obtaining House of Cards, you tacitly encouraged it. Not cool, sorry.
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Lisa de Moraes :
I will ground myself for a week...
Q.
Downton Abby
Lisa,
How shocked were you when Lady Sybil bit the dust? I liked her the best of the 3 sisters. Edith is starting to grow on me now.
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Lisa de Moraes :
I was very surprised when it happened in the UK six months ago.. I was not surprised when it happened in this country... it's a small world. I don't know when I've seen smaller...
Q.
MASH ending
I know I'm in the minority, but I hated the last episode. I think I was already annoyed that the last couple of seasons had turned into The Alan Alda show, and that last episode was the most reeking example of it. Absolutely hate Very Special Episodes when comedies think it's OK to turn into melodramas.
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Lisa de Moraes :
Yes, the show went on a couple seasons too long.. and many of the original cast members had left, which is one of the reasons the show was so tightly wound around Alda at the end...
Q.
HIMYM -- not Lily
A few seasons ago Ted said that he married the roommate of Rachel Bilson's character. Lily was already married to Marshall, so it's not Lily.
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Lisa de Moraes :
you guys are intent on wrecking my theory... what if they're in a parallel universe? Or the smoke monster shows up? or....
Q.
Greatest Show Ending
Two and a Half Men. I don't care what it is, but if it means this show is finally over and forever more dead, then it will be the greatest episode of TV ever.
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Lisa de Moraes :
You mean it will have done the greatest public service? I'm with you...
Q.
Downton Abbey
Quick comment from someone who's seen them all--it gets better. Eps. 6 7 and 8 (the last three before the Christmas one) are really, really great.
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Lisa de Moraes :
thanks!
Q.
"I'm not being snarky ..."
HA HA HA Did you ever think you'd write THOSE words, Pookie?
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Lisa de Moraes :
no. never.
Q.
HIMYM
It can't be Lily because there have been flash forwards showing Marshall and Lily still together and Marshall's a successful environmental lawyer and everyone's living the 'burbs.
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Lisa de Moraes :
drat, drat drat! My only hope now seems to be the smoke monster...
Q.
HIMYM Theorires
Perfect ending: Bob Newhart wakes up in bed next to Pam Ewing while Bobby and Emily are in the shower together.
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Lisa de Moraes :
thanks for that nightmare I'm going to have tonight...
Q.
Great Finales Should...
maintain the integrity of the show. Newhart was great because it was the same half hour as the entire series. MASH was an excellent TV movie that wrapped up the show with the war, but the final half hour episode (the Time Capsule) was also good. Roseanne was bad because the characters changed.
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Lisa de Moraes :
golly, I don't even remember the Roseanne finale...
Q.
Jack stole my idea
Hi Pookie,
When I was a young kid, about 10 or 11, my parents got a dishwasher and I wanted it to be see through so I could watch what was going on inside. I wish I would have know that that idea could make me CEO of GE!!
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Lisa de Moraes :
I had the same thought when someone stole my idea for a celebrity diving series... well, actually my idea was a celebrity autopsy series -- close enough...
Q.
HIMYM
The answer: ‘How I Met Your Mother’ back for ninth season. The question: "What is worse than nails on a chalkboard or the sound of a dentist's drill?" for $600, Alex.
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Lisa de Moraes :
it has gotten old, hasn't it? But CBS very much needed it back if it was going to be able to sustain a Monday and a Thursday comedy block, once "Partners" crashed and burned and "Friend Me" plunged into limbo with the sudden exit followed by sudden death of one of its creators...
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Puppy Bowl!
Who are your picks for Sunday's Puppy Bowl?
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Lisa de Moraes :
I'm going with Blitz, though I reserve the right to change my allegiance based on game play...
Q.
PUPPY BOWL IX!
I cannot wait!!! Puppies! Kitties! HEDGEHOGS?! YES PLEASE! Do you plan to watch? This is honestly probably my most favorite thing of the year because it negates the overall masculine feel of the day when you see grown men squeeing over the bowl cam! ;)
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Lisa de Moraes :
I remember introducing Puppy Bowl to a Super Bowl viewing party and got same reaction...
Q.
Mama K gets a talk show?
Pookie, really? Really?! Cripes. Let me teach my dog to talk and maybe she can get a talk show too. She's smarter than any of those K-bombs, despite licking herself clean each night.
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Lisa de Moraes :
Unless your dog's name starts with a K and ends with Kardashian, never gonna happen...
Q.
30 Rock/Girls
Pookie, you look fabulous! Where did you get that outfit? I remember remarking to a friend a few years ago that I was glad my funny, smart, cynical niece, who wants to be a actress/writer, was coming of age during the reign of Tina Fey. Now Tina is off the air and the heir apparent to Power TV Woman and role model is Lena Dunham and that seems like a huge step backwards for female persons. Can you make me feel better about this?
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Lisa de Moraes :
Hope this helps: Tina Fey has a deal with NBCUniversal for four years in which she will create a new show...
Q.
How I Met Your Mother
Dear pookie, why? Why carry on with this show? It hasn't been consistently good since its 3rd season. I don't understand why its ratings have gone up in its later years. It's like the decline in quality attracted more viewers. And yet I keep watching, and I honestly can't explain why now.
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Lisa de Moraes :
You answered your own question: ratings good (it's also CBS's youngest skewing show) and, as I mentioned a minute ago, CBS's two new comedies for this season both crashed and burned, for various reasons, leaving the network needing to bring back HIMYM in a big way...
Q.
The Simpsons
One of the local stations where I live has started broadcasting early episodes of the Simpsons, and I cannot say enough how brilliant those shows are. So sad how far it has fallen.
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Lisa de Moraes :
In its defense, it has been on the air since 1989....
Q.
Sympathy for the Devil
Why, oh why did Mick Jagger et al need to sell the rights to Sympathy for the Devil to be used in a Mercedes Benz commercial? They can't need money. It doesn't even make sense!
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Lisa de Moraes :
sad, isn't it?
Q.
Im Cuoco for Cocoa Puffs
What Ad are you looking forward to see?
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Lisa de Moraes :
None of them, I don't think, since I've already seen most of them...it's like I opened all my Christmas gifts four days before Xmas... what a letdown Xmas day is going to be... guess I'll just watch more Puppy Bowl...
Q.
Yakult is back!
Hey Pookie! I can't be on the live chat, but I wanted to know if you caught Suburgatory Wednesday night. The B story was, primarily about her having doggie depression and George's ability to cure it. It was great! Hopefully, we'll continue to see the cute pooch in the season's remaining episodes. ...Also, given that The B was cancelled, and Happy E, The Middle and Neighbors all suck and are doing pooly in the ratings, how does that bode for Suburgatory's fall renewal?
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Lisa de Moraes :
odds looking good once ABC yanked other comedies... and I too liked the canine story line...
Q.
Helen Hunt's Face?
Good Gawd what happened? Is she the latest victim of plastic surgery gone wrong? Or way too much sun and too little UV protection? Her body is still in great shape, but her face is so wrinkly and crinkly for 50 years old
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Lisa de Moraes :
If you think her face is wrinkly and crinkly then probably it's not owing to plastic surgery...what did you think of Kevin Costner's face?
Q.
NetFlix "Game of Cards" - a game changer?
Hi Lisa,
Let's say NetFlix's "House of Cards" turns a reasonable profit AND drives in new customers - will the regular ol' networks follow suit by producing a whole season and laying it out there all at once? Will they wait and see how "Arrested Development" shakes out?
What's your take on which TV Executive Impulse wins? The impulse to play it safe by doing the same thing? Or the impulse to "borrow" someone else's successful strategy?
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Lisa de Moraes :
no, because it's a different model, at least it is now.. Broadcast networks have stations to support, and ad time to sell, etc...
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Desparate, But Not Serious
So the Puppy Bowl will include hedgehogs as cheerleaders or some such nonsense. I've never met a hedgehog---do they demonstrate feelings of affection, or better yet, do they emote complete disdain, as garden-variety terriers often do?
Q.
Cougar town
Is anyone else as distracted by Courteney Cox's face as I am? It is so, so awful. I wish beautiful women didn't feel the need to do that to themselves. Or at least that they hired a decent plastic surgeon so that they don't end up looking like bloated corpses.
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Lisa de Moraes :
no comment...
Q.
Jimmy Kimmel
The Divine Ms. deM: I'm not a big Jimmy fan, but the "Matt Damon" takes over show was great. Now, if Kimmel could just keep Andy Garcia on board, and Nicole Kidman as a permanent guest - I'm a regular listener. Was I the only one who thought Robin Williams had an off night?
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Lisa de Moraes :
I liked Williams that night but he was performing a very specific function that night -- though, for the life of me I can't remeber what it was. Oh yeah, he was delivering opening monologue gags for Damon... Nope, I thought he did great... did not mow down Damon, which was just right...
Q.
30 Rock
I admit I teared up a teeny bit in the final minute or two, and I liked some of the conceits -- especially where Kenneth ends up and who Liz's kids are like --, but I had hoped for more a biting farewell commentary on TV and US culture in general. Did I miss some zingers? Also, Jenna's farewell song was a puzzler -- was there some hidden message in it?
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Lisa de Moraes :
Farewell tune was an inside gag....I too was expecting more zingers and less 'sweet'...
Q.
"The Americans"
Are we allowed to talk about how awesome the premier of "The Americans" was ? Or is this chat only for network programs ?
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Lisa de Moraes :
1) FX is a network
2) Viewers don't distinguish between broadcast and cable networks. They just watch shows.
3)All TV discussion welcome here
So talk away about the awesomeness of "The Americans" launch!
Q.
Series finales tied up with a bow
Now, I'm the exact opposite. I really like my series finales tied up with a bow rather than thinking outside the box. I like closure on all the main story lines, even when that is totally unrealistic. And I really hate when they leave you hanging, not knowing what happened afterwards.
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Lisa de Moraes :
Then you liked the "30 Rock" finale? I'm out of time. we can pick up this thread next week. Thanks for joining me!
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