I see Jordana's been fired by NBC before the show begins. Is that, like, a "Pre-Firing"? Did NBC have Donald Trump say to her "I know your show doesn't air for another 3 months, but You're Pre-Fired!!" Dos this mean maybe another season of us asking you when "My Boys" comes back?
Lisa de Moraes :
Hi. Here is what's going on, as I understand it. Jordana is in what is called a "first position" on "My Boys" -- she has a contract to do the show. Reasonably expecting that TBS was going to cancel "My Boys" -- they have treated the show fairly shabbily and not like a program they consider an important player on their lineup -- she did the NBC pilot for "Love Bites" in what is called "second position" in the biz -- which only sounds like porn, but really isn't. The problem here is, as I hear it, TBS won't release her from her contract because then gossip columnists would start reporting that "My Boys" is cancelled which is something TBS has not be willing to admit. That's because, understandably, they want to attract as many viewers as possible to the nine episodes they've had lying around for ages and will finally debut next month. BUT, NBC has to start shooting episodes of "Love Bites" and really can't do so with an actress in one of the lead roles who is in "second position" on the show, which, I have to day, if true, is completely understandable. So, they may have to cut bait on Spiro and re-cast. I hear there are still some discussions going on -- but don't hold your breath.
– June 25, 2010 1:11 PM
So NBC has dropped Jordana Spiro from "Love Bites" because she is still under contract for "My Boys." Proof that "My Boys" must continue to ensure global safety?
Lisa de Moraes :
I think it's pretty clear....
– June 25, 2010 1:12 PM
Pookie! Jordana Spiro has been dropped from "Love Bites." Does that mean "My Boys" will live on?
Lisa de Moraes :
I wish it meant that for sure. All it really means at this point is that TBS continues to be unwilling to admit it's cancelled because they have nine episodes debuting next month....
– June 25, 2010 1:13 PM
Jordano Spiro is no longer on the new tv show so what does that mean for "My Boyz"?
Lisa de Moraes :
It means TBS won't announce it's cancelled until well after the 9 episodes have been telecast...either that, or it means all that clapping of our little hands and clicking together of our little heels while saying "I do believe, I do believe!" has had some effect...take your pick.
– June 25, 2010 1:15 PM
OK I admit it - in this annonymous chat - I'm a 30-year-old woman and I'm hooked on ABC Family's "Pretty Little Liars"! Its ridiculous but in that really good way. Two different 20-something men falling desperately in love with 16 year old girls? Love it. Dead best friend still texting cryptic messages? Love it. I feel that because its on basic cable it has a good chance to stay on the air. Whats the story?
Lisa de Moraes :
Yeah, what are the odds of older guys both falling for younger chicks -- that never happens! Yes, because it's on ABC Family it has a good chance of staying on the air. So sit back, relax and enjoy...no need to worry about quick cancellation
– June 25, 2010 1:16 PM
Pookie, did anyone see Danielle Staub's musical debut on Monday night? I couldn't bear to watch it, so I'm hoping someone else did...
Lisa de Moraes :
It was less bad than the previous musical debut...is that a ringing endorsement?
– June 25, 2010 1:18 PM
I watched the last episode and there was scene when they were all sitting around the kitchen table talking sex and it was eerily as if they were trying to recreate The Golden Girls, and for some reason, that scene really spotlighted the so very, very unfortunate trend of Hollywood actresses trying to look 20 when they are 50.
Certainly the original Girls had had their facelifts, but when I flipped over to Hallmark for a comparison, they also looked really natural. So maybe Hot in Cleveland isn't a sitcom after all but a the-future-will-be-full-of-scary-plastic-skinny-people sci fi movie.
Lisa de Moraes :
Your comments take me by surprise only because I think the middle aged actressed on "Hot in Cleveland" look substantially less plastic than the actresses on, say "Desperate Housewives".....
– June 25, 2010 1:20 PM
Bazinga!
Is CBS trying to capture the old 80s/90s NBC mojo? What else is going to be in the Thursday lineup?
Lisa de Moraes :
Yes, that is exactly what CBS is trying to do -- and good for them! It's about time somebody stepped up on Thursday night with comedy. NBC's niche shows shouldn't be given free passes any longer -- there's a big comedy audience to be had on Thursday nights. Joining "Big Bang" on CBS will be William Shatner's new "@*$! My Dad Says" which sounded really good on paper but the clips at the upfront presentation looked very lame and usually a network uses the BEST material for those clips to show advertisers. I get it that William Shatner is adorable when he's being outrageous but it gets old really fast unless there's also a show in there somewhere. Will this be the fourth or fifth time we've seen demonstrated that lol tweets don't necessarily make good TV shows?
– June 25, 2010 1:24 PM
"Friends with Benefits."
Lisa de Moraes :
I wish ABC had the nerve...
– June 25, 2010 1:24 PM
Any chance to add to your poll as the new name for "Cougar Town": The Family Jules
Lisa de Moraes :
What a terrific idea -- and I'm guessing, is never gonna happen.
– June 25, 2010 1:25 PM
Love the name Collagen & Tonic. You could also go with The Botox Girls.
Lisa de Moraes :
That name was the product of my brilliant producer Paul's vivid imagination. But I like "TBG" as well!
– June 25, 2010 1:26 PM
I wasn't expecting much from this show after some so-so reviews, but I absolutely laughed out loud during the 2nd episode. Bertinelli is a little cutesy but I know people like that so it's not unheard of. Do you know how many episodes they have made? I hope it sticks around.
Lisa de Moraes :
It got 3.4 million people to watch the second episode --- that's huge for TV Land. I too know people who are cutsey like Bertinelli which is why I want to administer weed killer to her character every time I see it. Can someone tell her she's not an adorable teen any more? Please?
– June 25, 2010 1:29 PM
Dearest Pookster,
Will "I Survived a Japanese Game Show" be back this year? It usually starts the same week as "Wipeout," so I am not holding out much hope. But it really is my favorite show (well, besides Glee) since they cancelled "The 4400." Honestly. And I am still mad about that, by the by. Thanks!
Lisa de Moraes :
ABC has not announced any plans for "I Survived a Japanese Game Show" and they should have by now if they are going to return it. So I think you need to let go...on the bright side, "Glee" is going to be around for a while...
– June 25, 2010 1:30 PM
Pookie,
How many days until "My Boys" come back?
Lisa de Moraes :
One month -- July 25...I say we contact all our friends and get them to watch since it appears this actress has been done out of a good opportunity. Oh wait, she was cast on an NBC comedy -- never mind...
– June 25, 2010 1:31 PM
While I think Malik, Bertinelli, Leeves and White have skills/chops, they should not be playing the "ingenue" or disingenuous role(s) in insipid comedies. Why can't writers write for mature, funny and engaged women? (By mature, I mean anyone over an ostensible 29 years.) Cleveland could have been funny. Are there any women writers on these shows?
Lisa de Moraes :
Boy are you ever preaching to the choir. Leeves and Malik are terrific actresses and deserve much better material. Bertinelli and -- I know this is heretical -- Betty White are getting the material they so richly deserve. Sean Hayes is one of the executive producers of this dreary show and I'm surprised he doesn't aspire to something better than this..
– June 25, 2010 1:33 PM
How are you supposed to say "@*$! My Dad Says." I mean, when Mary Hart is interviewing William Shatner about his new show will she say Stuff my Dad says or Sh*t my dad says?
Lisa de Moraes :
I hope she says "shit" because I'd pay good money to see Mary Hart say "shit" on national TV... Do you think she will blush prettily, or will she begin to giggle nervously? Insta-poll!
– June 25, 2010 1:36 PM
1) Please tell me that Damages will be back for another season, and 2) any buzz on the new season of Mad Men, which starts next month? Thanks Lisa!
Lisa de Moraes :
FX has yet to say whether "Damages" is coming back and I'm guessing they're not going to say while they wait to see if Glenn Close gets nominated again for an Emmy....
– June 25, 2010 1:37 PM
Could you put a link to the poll so we can see the other name options? Sounds like fun!
Paul Williams :
– June 25, 2010 1:38 PM
Ouch! I'm assuming these people are given mouth guards and everything since no one seems to be mentioning anything about lost teeth, but how do they not come away with bruises all over their faces?
Lisa de Moraes :
I think one contestant actually came away dead...it was last year or maybe the year before... A guy who I think had run marathons before, collapsed -- though not on the show as I recall, it was some time later though I may be remembering incorrectly. Anyway, he died and they determined it was some previously undetected condition he had. Still, you'd think that story getting out would have scared people away from auditioning for the show. I get bruises just watching it.
– June 25, 2010 1:39 PM
Concerned readers want to know...Who takes care of your wonderful pets when you have to go back and forth across the country as part of your job? Do you bring them back presents so they will forgive you when you walk in the door? Do you program the DVR so no Animal Planet dog shows are missed when you aren't there to change the channel for them? Do they have their own remote?
Real questions from real fans of Ms. D
Lisa de Moraes :
I have one dog, Vanderbilt. My other darling dog, Violet, died of cancer, sadly, at age 12. Vanderbilt gets frequent flier miles on JetBlue. Seriously. They give miles to pets.
– June 25, 2010 1:41 PM
Going to Cuba could be USA's version of jumping the shark. Had been a huge fan of "Royal Pains" since day 1, tolerated the new Henry Winkler storyline (wow...just realized that jumping the shark becomes even more relevant), but this week's jaunt to Cuba has soured me on the show. Do you think "Royal Pains" will last the summer?
Lisa de Moraes :
Yes, though maybe this does not qualify as the same show, having veered so far away from what it was originally about. When does a show become it's own spinoff? Interesting question.
– June 25, 2010 1:44 PM
"Just Shoot Me" if my wife makes me watch it again.
Lisa de Moraes :
You put the quote marks in the wrong place:
"Just Shoot Me if My Wife Makes Me Watch It Again" -- that's your official entry...and I love it.
– June 25, 2010 1:45 PM
Is there anything at all on television that the so-called "Family Channel" deems unsuitable for airing to America's families?
Lisa de Moraes :
ABC Family is proof positive that irony is alive and well in TV, for which I am grateful. ABC is the stiffest competition MTV has these days. For real...
– June 25, 2010 1:46 PM
Just so long as I don't have to choose between Sheldon and Liz Lemon!
Lisa de Moraes :
Not yet. And if it ever comes to pass hey occupy the same timeslot, there's always your DVR. Or Hulu viewing. Really there is no excuse for missing a good show these days...
– June 25, 2010 1:47 PM
Ms de Moraes: You ARE the reason that I visit the WaPo Web site more than once a month.
My question. Did USA / NBC / Universal / Comcast Mega-Media (is it official yet?) renew "In Plain Sight"? I know that it has not had the ratings that the other USA shows have had and having Mary McCormack's West Wing alums (Allison Janney, Josh Molina, Steven Weber: were there others?) appear occasionally had a whiff of desperation to it. Still, are things so bad that the show has been cancelled?
And is there any advance word on the similar show about the new girl in her new job at the CIA? What is it called - "Hidden In Plain Sight" or something?
-Loyal Reader in State Adjacent to In Plain Sight's New Mexico
Lisa de Moraes :
USANBCUniversalKabletown has not yet announced anything about "In Plaint Sight." And I'm glad that you too smelled the whiff of desperation.
– June 25, 2010 1:49 PM
Pookie, you are such a beacon of light for those of us that like shows with, shall we say, a smaller following. Can you shed any light on the burnoff of "Better Off Ted"? The seventh game of the NBA Finals took away one such place on the ABC schedule; are there other places for the show's fans to await?
Lisa de Moraes :
ABC is being very coy in re their plans for the NBA bounced Ted episodes. As soon as I hear anything official I'll let you know.
– June 25, 2010 1:49 PM
Snappy and distinctive name, yes. Unfortunate name, perhaps. Unfortunate writing, definitely. I'll watch almost anything twice, but considering the two episodes I saw, this show is little more than coarse, desperate and, ultimately, unfunny. Given the premise (and cast), I had hoped for some amusing adult romp or wacky cultural comment. Alas. Am left with unrefined and undefined half-hour of cheap antics. Perhaps Mr. Lawrence should whine less about critics or censors and turn his attentions to quality of writing, character, plot development, etc. Let's not blame the (lack of) viewers on anyone else. His failure to pull this show together is his failure. BTW, has Mr. Lawrence any track record of television shows being "hits"?
Lisa de Moraes :
I feel compelled, because I'm about to go on vacation and want to spread some sweetness and light on my way out the door, to note that "Cougar Town" is doing well in the ratings in that it held up against "American Idol" which is still a ratings behemoth, and is a particularly upscale show. That's right, people with money watch it. Advertisers love people with money. I confess, I like this show. A lot. And I did not like Lawrence's "Scrubs." A lot.
– June 25, 2010 1:52 PM
I have to admit, its a guilty pleasure of mine. Last night they had the host dress up as an airline baggage handler and he threw luggage on the contestant's heads! I guess you had to be there.
But "Downfall" was dumb. I hope it didn't do well in the ratings.
Lisa de Moraes :
So this was a Christmas travel re-enactment?
– June 25, 2010 1:56 PM
Am I the only one noticing that preview ads for new shows are getting more and more vague every TV season? HAD I KNOWN that "The Gates" was about vampires, I could have saved myself the three minutes I wasted to realize what I was almost duped into watching. I suppose I should have done the research and looked up the actual premise, but isn't the network supposed to tell me? I think that's they're job... I'm really angry about this! How did fare by the way? I hope the ratings were pretty bad.
Lisa de Moraes :
There should be a TV rating at the start of every vampire show to warn people, like they do with language and violence. THe "V" is already taken, for "Violence" so we need another letter than can be the Vampire Warning....
– June 25, 2010 1:58 PM
So, are they now hanging out at local hamburger joints, just in case the Prez shows up with another foreign leader?
Lisa de Moraes :
I don't know -- decided I needed some Salahi down time after watching that first episode.....on the other hand, I hope you all watch it because we will have SO much to talk about....
– June 25, 2010 1:59 PM
But, well, she isn't shooting for "My Boys" - so why couldn't she shoot the other show? right? Like - she's just sitting around waiting for them to decide on "My Boys"? Does she get paid for that? That's a little strange...right?
Lisa de Moraes :
If she's under contract on "My Boys" she has to return to the show if they order more episodes. ...this whole "first position/second position" thing happens all the time on new TV series. Usually it's resolved more smoothly than this situation...
– June 25, 2010 2:00 PM
Vacation!? How long, pookie, how long? Will the estimable Emily Yahr be stepping in, if for no other reason than to field "My Boys" questions?
Lisa de Moraes :
– June 25, 2010 2:02 PM
How about "F" for fangs? It would cover werewolves too.
Lisa de Moraes :
And sharks. I always want to know when it's a show about sharks. I can't stand shows about sharks...
– June 25, 2010 2:03 PM
U for the Undead
Lisa de Moraes :
Also good, and winnows out the shark shows...
– June 25, 2010 2:03 PM
Don't forget he was the co-creator/showrunner on Spin City. Also pretty funny, at least while Michael J. Fox was the star.
Lisa de Moraes :
good point. thanks for reminding...
– June 25, 2010 2:03 PM
Yesterday I saw The Office, 30 Rock, and Parks and Recreation back to back.
It was hard to tell the shows apart - nobody was working, they were alldiscussing their sex lives, with frequent asides to the camera.
How do I get them to stop?
Lisa de Moraes :
You have to first get young guys to stop watching, except for "30 Rock" of course, and then it will go away naturally. Oh, and tell Emily to stop watching too. Please. Sorry, Emily, but it's for your own good.
– June 25, 2010 2:06 PM
When Urkel does better with the focus groups.
Lisa de Moraes :
– June 25, 2010 2:06 PM
Pookie-la, "The Friends of Mine" became "Ellen," "The Seinfeld Chronicles" became "Seinfeld."
Lisa de Moraes :
Except that "Friends of Mine" and "The Seinfeld Chronicles" were lame/pretentious/forgettable names."Cougar Town" is zippy. You remember "Cougar Town." And that's a very big deal in this era of TV -- unlike long, long ago when both those other shows were on the air and you could afford to debut shows with names like "The Friends of Mine" and still expect to snag an audience....
– June 25, 2010 2:08 PM
Hi, Pookie! So how did the two new ABC summer Sunday night shows do in the ratings? Neither is in the same league as "DH" and "B&S," to be sure, but they have potential. I do give "Scoundrels" an edge for fall pick-up, mainly because of VIrginia Madsen, who was great. What say you?
Lisa de Moraes :
"Soundrels" logged about 5 million viewers and "The Gates" just under 5 million. I'm not sure what to make of those numbers. ABC has been doing so badly in the summer with reruns of serialized shows like "Desperate Housewives" but, on the other hand, reruns of "DH" have to be cheaper than originals of these shows and these numbers may not cover the cost...
– June 25, 2010 2:10 PM
"Just so long as I don't have to choose between Sheldon and Liz Lemon!"
I can't believe there's a person who watches both of those shows?!?! I am stunned!
Lisa de Moraes :
Me, for one...we're out there. You can't see us, because we look all normal like.
– June 25, 2010 2:11 PM
No. I'm pretty sure Baggage Handlers throwing luggage at Running Travelers happens all the time at LAX.
Lisa de Moraes :
So you've traveled through LAX too! I fly out of Long Beach airport when I'm coming back to Washington from LA. Where, I hasten to add, I'm told they shot scenes for "Casablanca" -- reason enough to fly out of Long Beach.
– June 25, 2010 2:14 PM
Does he mind the flying? What kind of doggie is he (she?)?
Lisa de Moraes :
Vanderbilt is a gimongous Yorkie. At least that's what all the vets keep insisting, though I'm dubious. He weighs 13 pounds. He used to hate to fly. The first time I flew with him he barked all the way from Washington to Chicago and then Chicago to Denver. I felt so bad for the gentleman sitting in front of me because Vandy was under his seat in his little travel bag. Now he jumps right into his bag because he knows he's going to visit LA, or Denver where he gets to run around and yell at birds, which is his favorite sport. I'm digressing, and also out of time. Thanks for joining me.
– June 25, 2010 2:16 PM