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July 7, 2010

10:56
A.M.

Government Careers with Derrick Dortch

About the hosts

About the host

Jennifer Close

Jennifer Close is an Associate Manager for the Education and Outreach team at the Partnership for Public Service. The Partnership is a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization dedicated to revitalizing the federal government by inspiring a new generation to serve and by transforming the way government works.
Host: Derrick  Dortch

Derrick Dortch

Derrick Dortch is a career counselor who specializes in government job searching and military transition.

Government careers Q&A Archive

About the topic

Federal careers expert Derrick Dortch will be online with Jennifer Close from The Partnership for Public Service on Wednesday, July 7, at 11 a.m. ET to discuss government job searching and military transition.
Q.

Derrick Dortch :

Good Morning, Good Morning!  WHEW!!!! Its been hot outside but I hope you are staying cool because we have a real cool show today for you. Today I have as my special guest Jennifer Close from the Partnership for Publich Service. Jennifer runs the the Partnership's career fair that they will be holding on July 14th.  Let me give you a bit more information about her:

Jennifer Close is an Associate Manager for the Education and Outreach team at the Partnership for Public Service. The Partnership is a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization dedicated to revitalizing the federal government by inspiring a new generation to serve and by transforming the way government works. In this capacity, she is responsible for coordinating  a number of programs designed to promote public service to students on college and university campuses, including the Annenberg Speakers Bureau and the Call to Serve webinar workshop series.

I want to thank Jennifer Close for coming on the show today. We truly appreciate it.

Jennifer will be taking questions from me as well as you on the Public Service Career Fair. Well without any further delay let me get to answering your questions. If you have any questions related to the federal job search, writing federal resumes and KSAs, getting a security clearance, military transition and more please send your questions in. I will respond to as many people as possible. Also if anyone has any comments, advice or a good tip they want to share please do not hesitate to do so.

Thank you so very much for stopping by the show. You are truly appreciated. ENJOY!!!

Q.

Derrick Dortch :

Jennifer, welcome to the show, tell us about the Career Fair the Partnership for Public Service is holding next week.

A.
Jennifer Close :

Hi Derrick, thank you for having me. The 2010 Public Service Career and Internship Fair will be held on July 14 from 3:00-7:00 p.m. at the National Building Museum. We're exctied to say that more than 80 federal agencies from across government will be participating in this event.

– July 07, 2010 11:03 AM
Q.

Derrick Dortch :

Jennifer, who will be the various agencies in attendance and what kind of positions will they be hiring for?

A.
Jennifer Close :

There will be agencies from across government at the Career Fair, ranging from the Intelligence Community to the National Institutes of Health. There will be large and small agencies alike; you can expect to see hundreds of agency representatives recruiting for a wide variety of positions. Every major, background and skill set will be able to find something at this event.

– July 07, 2010 11:05 AM
Q.

Derrick Dortch :

If you are looking for a Federal Position and still having a hard time or if you have an agency that you are interested in and you are not finding a good number of permanent positions you may want to consider looking at other ways to get your foot in the door. You might want to begin looking at Temporary positions within the Federal Government. Each year the Federal Government hires temporary workers to fill positions where they feel they do not need a permanent employee.  These temporary jobs can be seasonal or they can last up to a certain time period. Most positions that I see that fall under the "Temporary Employment" category usually will last from anywhere between several months to 4 years. With Temporary employment situations many agencies are looking to hire people quickly and get them started. Many people think Temporary employment means that its the lowest level positions but this is not the case. A number of positions are filled temporarily and they range from Secretary to Census Worker to IT Specialist to Compliance Specialist to Child Development Program Technician to Mechanic to Management and Program Analyst and many more.

When agencies put out a vacancy announcement that they are looking for Temporary Workers/Employees many times they are looking to hire very quickly to fill those positions. Case in point when the Census Bureau needed to hire large amounts of workers to take the new Census or when the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) needed to hire a large amount of workers (Compliance Specialists and others) to work with the Troubled Assets Relief Program (TARP).

To find these Temporary employment jobs I recommend that you do a couple keyword searches in USAJOBS, AVUECentral.com, and Indeed.com. Type in the following Keywords:

NTE or Not To Exceed
Term
Temp or Temporary

You can do these keyword searches together but sometimes I like to do them separately to see what comes up under each. You should find a good number of positions. Sometimes it will say NTE, TERM, TEMP in the actual title other times you will see it inside the job description.

Now you need to understand that these positions are temporary and they will not usually be converted to into a full time position. I do not want you to think that you can get one of these jobs and then someone is going to take care of you without you doing anything and they will keep you even though the term limit is up. The position can be renewed but its not guaranteed. What you have to remember is that this is a door opener if you decide to use it this way. Once inside an agency you get to know the people in the agency, you get to work on projects, you get to meet hiring managers, you get to meet and know the HR staff, you get to make a name for yourself, you get to get the inside track on hiring within the agency, and much more. I have seen people who are in temporary positions use it as a way to get into a permanent position within an agency and keep moving up the ladder. So as you are doing your Federal Job Search do not discount the temporary positions. You may use them to get some stability while you are doing a search for something more permanent or you may use it as door opener for other agencies.

Q.

Derrick Dortch :

Jennifer, I talk to many people about career fairs and many job seekers get frustrated when they go to a fair and they stand in line for long periods of time and the agency tells them to go to the website.  Will your fair be different and what advice do you have for jobseekers when this happens?

A.
Jennifer Close :

Yes, I certainly understand jobseeker frustrations with career fairs, but these events are great opportunities to meet and interact with agency recruiters. We are taking steps at our Career Fair to help prepare both agencies and students/jobseekers so that they can maximize their participation. We've done several trainings for agencies, and have encouraged them to bring large numbers of representatives to help mitigate long lines. We're also doing preparatory webinars for students/jobseekers on how to make an impression on recruiters. Participants can learn more and sign-up for these sessions on makingthedifference.org/careerfair.

Additionally, nearly every agency that is participating will be collecting resumes at the Career Fair. You can view a list of these agencies on our Web  site.

– July 07, 2010 11:10 AM
Q.

Derrick Dortch :

Jennifer, what number of people in your experience actually come away with an actual interview from your career fair or career fairs like your?

A.
Jennifer Close :

Great question! We heard from a number of students and jobseekers who did receive interviews as a result of participating in last year's event. There was one agency, in particular, that interviewed 29 candidates from the Career Fair and hired 6 of those individuals. 

I would encourage participants to prepare for the Career Fair ahead of time. It is critical that you do your homework prior to the event if you want to be successful there. Research the agencies you're interested in, know their misssions and availabe positions, and prepare questions for recruiters ahead of time.

It also doesn't hurt to prepare an elevator pitch, or a 30- to 60-second introduction of yourself and your experiences, so that when you make it to the front of the line you're ready to interact with representatives and make yourself stand out.

– July 07, 2010 11:13 AM
Q.

Derrick Dortch :

Here are some articles of interest that I think you should check out:

FEATURES: Hiring Simplified
By Elizabeth Newell, Government Executive, July 1, 2010       
Cutting red tape for job applicants and involving managers in the hunt for mission-critical skills could be more complex than meets the eye.
http://www.govexec.com/features/0710-01/0710-01s1.htm

Hiring challenges weigh most on federal managers
By Elizabeth Newell, Government Executive, July 6, 2010       
Federal managers say the hiring process is their most pressing human capital challenge, according to a recent survey by the Government Business Council.
http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=45632

White House Salaries are Released in the report to Congress
Since 1995, the White House has been required to deliver a report to Congress listing the title and salary of every White House Office employee.  Consistent with President Obama's commitment to transparency, this report is being publicly disclosed on our website as it is transmitted to Congress.  In addition, this report also contains the title and salary details of administration officials who work at the Office of Policy Development, including the Domestic Policy Council and the National Economic Council -- along with White House Office employees.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/disclosures/annual-records/2010

Pentagon continues to grapple with language shortfalls
By Katherine McIntire Peters, Government Executive Magazine, June 30, 2010       
Foreign language training of troops is critical to U.S. counterinsurgency operations in Afghanistan, yet five years after releasing its Defense Language Transformation Roadmap
Pentagon officials still can't reliably identify language and regional proficiency requirements, auditors at the Government Accountability Office said.
http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=45595&sid=59

Q.

Derrick Dortch :

A GOOD FAQ SECTION FROM OPM

Office of Personnel Management's FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) Section
OPM has developed a FAQ section that is pretty helpful in answering many questions about Federal Employment and related topics. I cant say that it answers every single question you might have but its a good starting point to try to find out information. You can find it by following this link:
http://www.opm.gov/faqs/

Q.

Derrick Dortch :

Jennifer, who do you recommend attend this career fair. Are agencies looking for just students or recents grads or are you they looking for seasoned and experienced professionals? Who should come?

A.
Jennifer Close :

Thank you for asking! While the Career Fair is open to the public, this event is targeted towards students, both graduate and undergraduate, recent graduates and professionals with fewer than five years of experience. This is primarily because recruiters will be looking to fill internships, fellowships and entry-level positions.

However, the government is looking for more experienced workers and we encourage these individuals to apply for positions online on individual agency Web sites and USAJOBS.gov.

– July 07, 2010 11:16 AM
Q.

Public Service Hiring

About the Fair, will there be any interviewing and hiring on site? I'm a Vietnam era vet and upon my visits to USAJobs, I've been overwhelmed by the application process. Honestly, other than my resume, I just don't know where to start.
A.
Jennifer Close :

While agencies will not be hiring anyone onsite, they will be collecting resumes, providing information about their vacancies, and some may be even be conducting screening interviews.

I completely understand how overwhelming the process can be on USAJOBS.gov, and I think the Career Fair does present an excellent opportunity for you to learn about the concrete next steps in the application process from the people who will be reading applications.

Also, the Partnership will be presenting "Find and Apply" sessions onsite, which will give an overview of how to navigate USAJOBS.gov, build your federal resume and more.

I hope this helps! Best of luck with your search.

– July 07, 2010 11:20 AM
Q.

Rangwala :

Jennifer, where can they find information on the career fair online?

A.
Jennifer Close :

You can register and learn more on makingthedifference.org/careerfair. This Web site has a host of tips for doing your homework, building your federal resume and preparing your elevator pitch.

– July 07, 2010 11:21 AM
Q.

KSAs

Have any agencies begun to implement the new rules about abolishing KSAs? If so, which ones?
A.
Jennifer Close :

While I don't have a specific list of agencies that have already abolished KSAs during the first step of the application process, I do know that all agencies are working towards accomplishing this, and need to do so by November 1.

I'm sure Derrick can answer any of your questions surrounding hiring reform in more detail.

– July 07, 2010 11:23 AM
Q.

Derrick Dortch :

I am going to let Jennifer take some of your questions and I will do the same.

Q.

PMF program

Hi Jennifer, I just learned about the PMF program after graduating this spring with an MBA. I'm extremely interested in international development and would have loved the opportunity to do rotations at USAID, but I heard nothing about this great program from my career center or even development agencies themselves. Also, I think there was a roughly two-week window or something in which to apply. It seems the federal agencies might be closing themselves off from some promising candidates by not advertising this opportunity to grad students in "nontraditional" fields. I'm very disappointed about this. Is there any similar type of program for people who have JUST graduated?
A.
Jennifer Close :

Hi! Great question. Yes, the PMF application window is open for a very short period of time - usually just two weeks in the early fall. However, if you're interested in a similar program, I would encourage you to check out the Federal Career Intern Program. While this program is currently under review, agencies are still using it to help get great talent into government. FCIP is a complete misnomer - this is not an internship program, but rather, a 2-year full-time position with the federal government. What's great about this program is that participants can rotate within an agency or between agencies. Additionally, there is a lot of professional development associated with this program.

Agencies are not required to post FCIP positions on USAJOBS.gov, so I would urge you to visit individual agency Web sites or do a Google search for "Career Intern Program."

Good luck!

– July 07, 2010 11:30 AM
Q.

Derrick Dortch :

Jennifer, beyond the career fair what other programs does the Partnership for Public Service have that can help Federal Job Seekers?

A.
Jennifer Close :

Fantastic question! The Partnership provides a number of resources for students and jobseekers to help them navigate the federal application process. We have several Web sites full of information that will assist federal jobseekers with their search. Please check out makingthedifference.org, wherethejobsare.org and bestplacestowork.org.

Also, we recently published a book - "The Complete Idiot' s Guide to Getting Government Jobs." It's a great resource for those of you who prefer hard copies to reading online! You can purchase it at the Career Fair or with an online retailer like amazon.com.

– July 07, 2010 11:33 AM
Q.

immigration lawyer or juvenile defenders jobs

What government agencies can I apply for as an experienced immigration lawyer with over 10 years of independent practice.
A.
Derrick Dortch :

Hello Immigration Lawyer,

Given that you have developed a Subject Matter Expertise on Immigration issues I assume that you want to stay in this field. If you do not that is a longer discussion but if you do let me tackle some agencies you may be interested in targeting:

Under Department of Homeland Security you may want to look at the Department of Homeland Security Headquarters (HQ) - General Counsel and other offices
http://www.dhs.gov/files/immigration.shtm
Look on the link above and see who is focused on these issues

US Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services
http://www.uscis.gov/  ...
www.uscis.gov/forms - Cache

US Immigration and Customs Enforcement
http://www.ice.gov/

Department of Justice
The Executive Office for Immigration Review
http://www.justice.gov/eoir/

Department of Labor
http://www.dol.gov/compliance/laws/comp-ina.htm

State Department
http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/types/types_1310.html

Social Security & Entering the United States of America http://www.ssa.gov/immigration/

These are just a few to begin targeting. I hope this helps and gets you started on the right track. I wish you much success!

– July 07, 2010 11:37 AM
Q.

SF-50 and PAR

I resigned from the CIA several years ago and now would like to pursue federal employment elsewhere. Federal applications require copies of my last SF-50 and PAR. How do I obtain these documents? Thank you.
A.
Derrick Dortch :

This from OPM:

How can I get a copy of my Official Personnel Folder (SF-50)?
If you're currently a Federal employee, contact your Human Resources Office.
If you're no longer working for the Government, write to:   
National Personnel Records Center
Civilian Personnel Records
111 Winnebago Street
St. Louis, MO 63118-4126
FAX: 314-801-9270

For more information on contacting the National Personnel Records Center, go to http://www.nara.gov/regional/cpr.html

I would recommend that you also contact the CIA HR office and see they can be of assistance. CIA is an excepted service agency and has its only ways of doing things so I would check with them to find out what records you have.

Call here and they should be able to point you in the right direction:
(703) 482-0623
Open during normal business hours.

I hope this helps. Take care and I wish you much success!

– July 07, 2010 11:42 AM
Q.

I was interested in the fair until...

I read this on the website. WHO: Agencies will be recruiting for a variety of entry-level jobs and internships at this event. Students, both graduate and undergraduate, recent graduates, and professionals with less than five years of experience are those most likely to find opportunities that fit their interests and skill sets at the Career Fair. What about those of us with 20 years experience who want to change the course of our careers in a meaningful way?
A.
Jennifer Close :

I commend you on your decision to change your career and go government! I'm thrilled to hear that you're interested in pursuing federal opportunities. Again, while the Career Fair is targeted towards entry-level hires, there is no reason why you can't attend and talk to recruiters about your work experience and how that might translate into a position with their agency.

I would encourage you, if you do plan to attend, to research those agencies with available positions that match your interests and experiences. This way, when you arrive at the Career Fair, you can ask very targeted questions about these positions and what steps you need to take to become an employee with an agency.

Best of luck with your search!

– July 07, 2010 11:43 AM
Q.

U.S. Public Health Service

You mentioned in a previous chat that the USPHS would be having big hiring push over the next few years. Where is that documented? and how much over the base 6000 employees they maintain will that be?
A.
Derrick Dortch :

Thanks for your question. I had Capt. Dan Beck, Deputy Director for Force Readiness and Deployment in the Office of the Surgeon General about his agency the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps on my radio show (Fed Access with Derrick T. Dortch) on Federal News Radio 1500 (FederalNewsRadio.com) last year and we discuss hiring for the USPHS. I discussed with Capt. Beck the mission of the agency, its history, how one becomes an Officer, and various assignments and deployments.

Listen to the show and this should answer many of your questions:
http://federalnewsradio.com/index.php?nid=71&sid=1744756

Also take a look at the USPHS website:
http://www.usphs.gov/

They are hiring.

I hope this helps. Take care and I wish you much success!

– July 07, 2010 11:47 AM
Q.

Government Resume

Why does the resume for civil service jobs have to be so complex?
A.
Jennifer Close :

Building a federal resume is a very different process than creating a standard one-pager. However, this process has been made simpler! Earlier this year, the OPM launched a new iteration of USAJOBS.gov, which is much more user-friendly.

On this site, you can create an account, and build and store up to five federal resumes. The site will walk you through this process and all of the required fields so that you won't forget to input any information.

Examples of the additional details you'll need to include in a federal resume are specifics about your work experience, such as dates and number of hours worked per week, as well as supervisor contact information.

I would recommend that you create one master resume with all of your experiences, and then tailor additional resumes for various positions. This should help you save time!

Good luck!

– July 07, 2010 11:48 AM
Q.

Derrick Dortch :

Jennifer, will agencies at the career fair be accepting resumes. What is your advice on resumes? How many should people bring? Should they target resumes to various agencies? What advice do you have on this?

A.
Jennifer Close :

This is a great question. In a significant change from last year, the majority of agencies participating in the event will be accepting resumes - both federal and non-federal. On our Web site, you can view a "List of Participating Agencies and Available Positions," which has a column denoting those agencies that are or are not taking resumes at the Career Fair, so that you can prepare ahead of time.

We suggest that students/jobseekers choose the three to five agencies they're most interested in visiting ahead of time and determine where they will be located using our event map. Accordingly, I would recommend bringing 5-7 copies of your non-federal resume, and if you do have a federal resume, 2-5 copies of that as well to hand out to those agencies you're most interested in.

For the purposes of the Career Fair, it would be dificult to targt your resume unless you know exactly who you want to talk to and what positions you want to apply for - in that case, targeting your resume would be a huge advantage.

– July 07, 2010 11:53 AM
Q.

Department of Education

Will the Department of Education be there? If so, what offices?
A.
Jennifer Close :

Yes, the Dept. of Education will be onsite at the Career Fair - their primary HR office will be there.

– July 07, 2010 11:54 AM
Q.

Waiting

I interned for a government agency, and they talked about bringing me in for the month of June on a part time basis, and hopefully full-time in august, but now June has come and gone, and they still tell me that my appointment is waiting for approval from Human resources. Should I be worried? I really don't know what to expect
A.
Jennifer Close :

Hi there! I'm sorry to hear that the process it taking longer than expected. I would urge you to contact the HR office, express your continued interest and enthusiasm for the position, and ask when they think it will be processed.

Be patient! I'm sure the position will be worth the wait.

Good luck!

– July 07, 2010 11:56 AM
Q.

Entry Level Federal Govenment work

I'm in my late 30's just lost my job in banking. Now, I'm looking for work I want something I can possibly retire from. What is the best method and jobs for those seeking entry level gov. jobs and what positions are best, thanks!
A.
Jennifer Close :

I'm sorry to hear that you lost your job, but I am excited  that you're now looking for government work. Please come to the Career Fair! There are a large number of agencies recruiting for positions doing financial work, from management analysts to accountants to budget officers.

Register today on www.makingthedifference.org/careerfair.

– July 07, 2010 11:58 AM
Q.

Job Fair

I am a 58-year-old female with 20 plus years of experience. So is the job fair NOT designed for me?
A.
Jennifer Close :

While the Career Fair is open to everyone, given your experience and the fact that agencies will primarily be looking to fill entry-level positions, it might not be the best avenue for you to find a federal job.

I would suggest that you visit USAJOBS.gov or individual agency Web sites.

Good luck!

– July 07, 2010 12:00 PM
Q.

Government Job Event

This sounds like a great opportunity. What type of documents do I need to bring in order to be well prepared?
A.
Jennifer Close :

Hi there! In order to prepare for the event, you want to be sure to bring copies of your resume to the Career Fair. You also want to have some talking points and questions for recruiters ready ahead of time.

We have tips about these topics on our Web site, makingthedifference.org/careerfair.

I look forward to seeing you on July 14!

– July 07, 2010 12:02 PM
Q.

Job Search

Any advice for those of us seeking federal employment who have been laid off from a previous job?
A.
Jennifer Close :

Great question! There are a lot of folks in the same boat. The good news is that there are a large number of federal opportunities. According to a report the Partnership published last year, the government will need to fill 273,00 positions in mission-critical areas alone through 2012.

When it comes to getting one of these jobs, first, do your homework! Choose the agencies you're most interested in and familiarize yourself with their missions and the positions you would like to pursue.

Once you know which positions you want to pursue, carefully read the job vacancy announcement, particularly the "Duties" section and pull out any buzzwords or key phrases like "research skills" or "communications skils."

Next, incorporate those buzz words into your application, and think about any other skills/experiences you have that would translate well for a particular position and incorporate them as well.

Also, don't forget to be enthusiastic about why you're interested in government work. Show your passion for public service!

Good luck.

– July 07, 2010 12:12 PM
Q.

Career Fair

The fair sounds nice and all, but only if you're a student or someone with less than 5 years experience. It seems like a waste of time for more experienced professionals.
A.
Jennifer Close :

Given the fact that agencies will be looking to fill internships, fellowships and entry-level positions at the Career Fair, the target audience is students, recent gradutes and professionals with fewer than five years of experience.

As such, it may not be the best event for more experienced workers like yourself. However, as I mentioned earlier today, the government is looking to fill more senior positions, and I would recommend that you look for these opportunities on USAJOBS.gov and agency Web sites.

Best of luck!

– July 07, 2010 12:16 PM
Q.

Jennifer Close :

Thank you for having me on your show today; I really enjoyed chatting with you and the audience!

I hope to see many of you at the Career Fair on July 14. If you'd like to sign up or find more information, visit the Partnership for Public Service's Career Fair Web site at makingthedifference.org/careerfair.

Good luck to you all with your federal job searches!

Q.

No more KSAs, right?

Hi Derrick. When does the KSA requirement go away for govt jobs? I have stopped applying for jobs because I found the KSAs more work that graduate school. The last time I mailed off a PACKET to apply for a job - I included EVERYTHING - I received a form letter 6 mos later that said, I was not in consideration because "my application was incomplete." It was not. I am anal about check lists and am sure I included everything. The letter did not say what I supposedly left out, or did it include any contact information for questions. I met every qualification for this job AND I am a veteran! I can't imagine a more convoluted system in applying for a job. Please tell me it is getting better! sign me: Frustrated in Rockville
A.
Derrick Dortch :

First, let me say from one Vet to another, thank you for your service.  The new system for just taking resumes is suppose to go into effect by November 2010. As you see in the articles I posted above this not going to be a easy transition so I cant promise you that it will be immediately better. Its very much so a wait and see situation.  Let me make three suggestions to you quickly that  I want you to implement:

 

1. Whenever you are going to apply to a position make sure you get in touch with the HR Point of Contact and talk to them. Never let any position you apply to sit for several months without you knowing anything. Find out what the timeline is for the position and when do they expect to do interviews and hire. Get these questions answered ahead of time so you will know. As we know, knowledge is power. Also after you apply, follow up and make sure everything is in order with your application and then follow up to see if you are making the eligible list and are being referred to the selecting official or hiring manager.  You need to be in touch with someone every step of the way.

2. Contact your veterans representative in the agencies of interest. President Obama is pushing forward with initiatives to get Veterans hired. There is a good site you should go to call Feds Hire Vets

http://www.fedshirevets.gov/

On the site there is an agency directory for contacts within that agency for Vets. I have personally talked to several of these individuals and many of them are also Vets so reach out to them and discusss your interest and get advice and assistance on getting into that agency.

http://www.fedshirevets.gov/AgencyDirectory/index.aspx

3. Make sure you have your Self-Marketing Materials (Federal Resume, KSAs and other materials) reviewed by either a professional or someone who knows what they are talking about.  You want to make sure that what you are putting out is really selling you as the best candidate.

I hope this helps. Let me know how it goes. I wish you much success!

– July 07, 2010 12:33 PM
Q.

Rangwala :

any people who are afraid to apply for federal employment (even between agencies) because of credit issues. Is there policy written that eliminates applicants for government jobs if they have "poor credit"? Does the policy apply to all agencies?

A.
Derrick Dortch :

Thanks for your question.  Credit and financial issues is something that the government cares about but its more for positions that deal with Public Trust and Security Clearances when it becomes an issue. Agencies that do not require you to get a public trust or secret and above clearance many times will not go into your credit or financial history as much. They will do more or a background check to look at your criminal record and do a drug test but that is where it will stop. It really depends on the agency, the position, what kind of information you will have access to and what clearances are required if any.

So to answer your question, your credit history and financial issues may or may not matter, it just depends on the agency and the position. Now with that being said many government agencies began to do a great deal more scrutiny after 9/11 on Federal Workers and I don't necessarily see this changing so you do want to do the best you can for your sake as well as your marketability for job sake to work on making sure your finances are in order and you have cleared up any bad debts you have.

I do want to make this clear. Its not about your credit score. That is not the significant factor. Its about your credit history. This means do you have a consistent pattern of paying bills on time, do you have a consistent pattern of being responsible with your finances. If you don't have a consistent pattern and your credit history shows a pattern of you always being late in paying your debts or you have a large number of write offs that are still on your credit then this can hurt you when applying to any government jobs requiring a clearance. Let me tell you how the government views things. What I am about to share comes from the Adjudication Desk Reference. It is used a guideline for background investigators and adjudicators when looking at someone to determine if they are suitable for a clearance either as a government employee or military or government contractor.

– July 07, 2010 12:34 PM
Q.

Derrick Dortch :

Finances - Debt
Relevance to Security

Common sense and experience tell us that financial difficulties may increase temptation to commit illegal or unethical acts as a means of gaining funds to meet financial obligations. Many persons encounter financial problems through no fault of their own. For others, financial problems appear to be part of a general tendency toward irresponsibility and poor judgment, and that is a security concern. From a security perspective, the cause of debt and how one deals with financial obligations are considerably more important than the amount of debt.

It is important to remember that many financially motivated crimes are committed out of simple greed, not need, and that most people with financial difficulties are not inclined to commit illegal acts at all.
Potentially Disqualifying Conditions
Extract from the Guideline

(a) inability or unwillingness to satisfy debts; 

(b) indebtedness caused by frivolous or irresponsible spending and the absence of any evidence of willingness or intent to pay the debt or establish a realistic plan to pay the debt.

(c) a history of not meeting financial obligations;

(d) deceptive or illegal financial practices such as embezzlement, employee theft, check fraud, income tax evasion, expense account fraud, filing  deceptive loan statements, and other intentional financial breaches of trust;

(e) consistent spending beyond one’s means, which may be indicated by excessive indebtedness, significant negative cash flow, high debt-to-income ratio, and/or other financial analysis;

(f) financial problems that are linked to drug abuse, alcoholism, gambling
problems, or other issues of security concern;

(g) failure to file annual Federal, state, or local income tax returns as
required or the fraudulent filing of the same;

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Derrick Dortch :

Now that you have read this let me show you the mitigating circumstances:

Mitigating Conditions
Extract from the Guideline
 
(a) the behavior happened so long ago, was so infrequent, or occurred under  such circumstances that it is unlikely to recur and does not cast doubt on the individual’s current reliability, trustworthiness, or good judgment;

(b) the conditions that resulted in the financial problem were largely beyond the person's control (e.g., loss of employment, a business downturn, unexpected medical emergency, or a death, divorce or separation), and the individual acted responsibly under the circumstances;

(c) the person has received or is receiving counseling for the problem and/or there are clear indications that the problem is being resolved or is under control; (d) the individual initiated a good-faith effort to repay overdue creditors or otherwise resolve debts;

(e) the individual has a reasonable basis to dispute the legitimacy of the  past-due debt which is the cause of the problem and provides documented proof to substantiate the basis of the dispute or provides evidence of actions to resolve the issue;

As you see the key is to show that you are now responsible. If you do have credit issues work on resolving them now. Get credit counseling and begin paying off your debts as quickly as possible. Even if you are paying little amounts a month on a plan you worked out with your debtors this will help. I have helped a lot of people with these issues so the key is to show that you are doing the right thing and trying to correct any bad behavior you had in the past so that the Government can trust you.

For some positions your credit history will not be a factor but in others it will be. It just depends. One way to find out is to call the HR point of contact and see what kind of background check will be conducted and if your credit will be checked. This will let you know. No matter what do your best to get your financial house in order.

I hope this helps. Take care and I wish you much success.

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Derrick Dortch :

Well my producer is telling me we need to wrap it up so I want to make sure I thank Jennifer Close from the Partnership for Public Service for all of her great advice and for telling us about the career fair they will be having this month. I have been to several and I will be at this one so if you see please say hello. It should be a great event.

Thanks Jennifer!!!

I also want to thank my producer Sakina for all of her hard work and assistance.  And most importantly I want to thank you for stopping by the show, submitting your questions, and participating. You are very much so appreciated.

We will be back in two weeks for another show.  I will also be bringing on more guests in the near future so if you have any suggestions on guests please let us know.  Until then please be careful, stay cool, and enjoy your summer and remember that I wish you much success in your career, work and life. 

Derrick T. Dortch

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