Hope everyone's doing well! Let's get to it! How about that cursive?
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November 13, 2012 11:02 AM
What profession is pretty much universally accepted to have the worst handwriting? The doctors. So if you want your kid to become one, they should be pulled out of the Kansas school system.
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November 13, 2012 10:57 AM
Alexandra Petri :
I don't know. As someone who was taught penmanship, there's a fine, squiggly, indecipherable line between "able to write by hand" and "able to write legibly by hand." They might squeak through.
– November 13, 2012 11:07 AM
Best one I've heard yet by Seth Meyers on Weekend Update:
Title of book (All In) before affair: Just the Tip
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November 13, 2012 11:02 AM
Alexandra Petri :
Some of the "embedded with" jokes have been pretty good as well.
– November 13, 2012 11:08 AM
When the power goes out, you want your sign that says "My food is protected by my doberman and my shotgun" to be clear and legible.
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November 13, 2012 11:03 AM
Alexandra Petri :
Well, that's a fair point. But even then it may not be visible at night, when most of the marauding is due.
– November 13, 2012 11:09 AM
Why, I just used cursive last Tuesday, when I had to sign my name in order to vote!
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November 13, 2012 11:07 AM
Alexandra Petri :
Well, so did I, but you'd have to go pretty far to find someone incapable of replicating my squiggle.
As a sidenote, that entire piece is probably going to double as a friendly invitation to identity thieves. Please don't! My doberman and rifle!
– November 13, 2012 11:12 AM
I was socially promoted in the fifth grade. I should have failed my penmanship class, but was allowed to have a just barely passing grade so that I would not be held back. fifth grade was all about learning caligraphy. We had to buy fountain pens and ink cartridges. I was horrible at that and most other handwriting as well.
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November 13, 2012 11:10 AM
Alexandra Petri :
Calligraphy? More like kakography, am I right?
...I'll show myself out.
Oh man, I tried to learn calligraphy. I could, at one point, do a terrible impression of a monk and make those big Gothic characters, but I could never manage more than a word before the pen died.
– November 13, 2012 11:14 AM
My handwriting has always been terrible. When my mother gave me my school records from childhood I could see the same comments every year starting in kindergarten about how my penmanship needed improvement. In seventh grade my teachers told my to give up on the cursive because they couldn't read it. Since then I have relied on my slightly more legible chicken scratch printing. This has caused me few problems in life. One exception was when my wife casually asked me to sign a card with both of our names. I had to explain that the only thing I can write in cursive is my own name.
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November 13, 2012 11:12 AM
Alexandra Petri :
But see, you made it pretty far without any difficulty!
The only people I worry about, job-wise, are those people who do the beautiful lettering on the signs of coffee shops to tell me about the Intimidating New Mochas.
My favorite dying possibly-spurious art is the art of handwriting analysis, from which I learned that Ted Bundy's handwriting looked much friendlier than Ted Kaczynski's. So, there's that.
– November 13, 2012 11:18 AM
Let's see how many different ways we can misspell the general's surname. (Like a restaurant near us whose menu has a record number of spellings of "mesclun.")
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November 13, 2012 11:15 AM
How come your chat is working and all the other ones have been cancelled?
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November 13, 2012 11:18 AM
Alexandra Petri :
That's a good question! I AM INVINCIBLE! MY CHATS SUCCEED WHILE OTHERS DROP LIKE FLIES! NOTHING CAN TOUCH ME! SEND ME A BIOGRAPHER!
– November 13, 2012 11:20 AM
maybe we can make kids learn cursory penmanship instead.
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November 13, 2012 11:16 AM
Alexandra Petri :
– November 13, 2012 11:21 AM
Did you know you can find copies of those documents in nice, clear type all over the interwebs? The only people who read the originals are the people who read the bible in Greek, Hebrew, etc, to make sure they don't miss any nuances.
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November 13, 2012 11:21 AM
Alexandra Petri :
And don't forget the people who read them for access to the hidden treasure!
– November 13, 2012 11:22 AM
There was an election since your last chat. Any comments?
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November 13, 2012 11:22 AM
Alexandra Petri :
Election? What election?
My golly, it seems decades ago already. Sad Teddy Roosevelt didn't pull through.
No, but seriously. I'm glad Key and Peele are here for this term, because they have figured out an Obama parody that legitimately makes me laugh, something that SNL still struggles with. But now I am starting to remember what life was like when we didn't know what Mitt Romney ate for breakfast. Not sure I like it. Now, if we follow Mitt Romney from place to place asking him to tell us jokes and humanizing anecdotes, WE'RE suddenly the weirdos.
I am going to miss a lot of the zany and not-so-zany characters who were culled in this Quadrennial Quell. But there are always others where they came from.
– November 13, 2012 11:31 AM
My second grade teacher, Sister Perfecta, (and I'm not making that name up) told my parents to teach me penmanship because she couldn't get through to me (ruler did not seem to work). I had to deal with penmanship workbooks and with very disappointed parents who were worried that I was not performing up to my potential. Nightmarish memories are triggered every time I read the word "penmanship", even 50 plus years later. I'm grateful that there are alternatives.
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November 13, 2012 11:23 AM
Alexandra Petri :
Wow. Sister Perfecta. That does sound nightmarish. Nothing like a dash of parental disappointment to make any scenario worse.
On the other hand, nightmares about penmanship could be visually interesting?
– November 13, 2012 11:35 AM
If you plan to be a celebrity, you should learn to write your name nicely for giving autographs to your adoring fans. Or if you are a would-be author, you need to write legibly to autograph books. (though I note that Chris Cilliza printed when he autographed a copy of his The Fix book for me)
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November 13, 2012 11:28 AM
Alexandra Petri :
That's true. I have an autograph from Mark Hamill, and I can tell what all the letters are.
Well, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
– November 13, 2012 11:43 AM
In 6th grade our teachers required that we always write in cursive because when we got to big bad middle school students were expected to only use cursive. What a joke! Middle school teachers never said a thing about cursive. This is where I began to distrust teachers.
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November 13, 2012 11:28 AM
Alexandra Petri :
Ah, the classic Pass The Buck To The Middle School Teachers wheeze. You only fall for that once.
– November 13, 2012 11:44 AM
The Irish monks stabbed the marauding Vikings in the eyes with their goose quill pens, thereby saving civilisation. (Then Noah Webster came along and put a "z" in civilization, and nobody knew how to make a proper cursive "z.")
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November 13, 2012 11:33 AM
Alexandra Petri :
I think the former might just be another case of geese saving civilization. They did that for the Romans! This event with the Irish was just later in the goose process.
And of course I have to inflict my favorite Noah Webster apocryphal anecdote on you.
The writer of the dictionary was discovered by his wife in flagrante delicto with one of the chambermaids.
"Noah!" she exclaimed. "I'm surprised!"
"No my dear," he said, "you are amazed. It is we who are surprised."
– November 13, 2012 11:47 AM
What do we make of those people that misspell Pitraoeus, but have remarkable penmanship? My calligraphy is amazing! Not kidding.
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November 13, 2012 11:36 AM
Alexandra Petri :
Ah, but the trouble with having bad spelling and good penmanship is that people can tell.
The rest of us squeak by under the stern tuition of the little red line.
– November 13, 2012 11:49 AM
I hate to bring a serious answer to a gunfight (wait, that's not right), but I recall reading that learning to write by hand teaches motor skills that are not developed by typing. Granted, within a few generations one may expect our physical bodies to have completely atrophied in any case, but in these last pre-apocalypse years, perhaps there is still a role for motor skills?
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November 13, 2012 11:38 AM
Alexandra Petri :
No, I concur. I'm all for rote learning, and there have been studies suggesting that the effort of learning the shape of letters by hand may actually be tremendously helpful, not to mention the motor skills component. As with looking things up in a dictionary, there is, it turns out, a certain value in putting in seemingly boring, redundant effort to obtain knowledge. The duration of your attachment is proportional to the original resistance of the information. At least in some cases.
– November 13, 2012 11:54 AM
If you want to scribble, have something else distinctive. Pastis adds the character of your choice. And bonus for the recipient: if she says "it's for my friend. Please make it out "to Sandy" but she has a fight with Sandy and wants to give it to Katrina instead, no problem.
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November 13, 2012 11:48 AM
Alexandra Petri :
Yeah!
I always thought the point of signings was the brief interaction, not the actual signature, although the actual signature is cool too. Anyway, I've been squiggling through for all these years, I'm sure I could pull something together.
– November 13, 2012 11:56 AM
The decline of cursive has gotten so extreme that Lisa Simpson had to sneak off and take secret lessons in it from a retired school principal. The caused one of the characters to say, "What?!? No one can make a capital Q!!"
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November 13, 2012 11:56 AM
Alexandra Petri :
– November 13, 2012 11:58 AM
What are the FBI handwriting analysts going to do for work if nobody hand-writes anything? Are they going to build profiles based on choice of font?
[I choose my fonts based on their name, just as I choose paint colors and dog breeds. I am fond of "Perpetua Sans" because it sounds like a pair of trousers that will last forever.]
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November 13, 2012 11:59 AM
Alexandra Petri :
Ha!
I was once a big proponent of Garamond. I still think it's beautiful, but we don't move in the same circles any more.
Now I just use the default in Word, which is either Times New Roman or Cambria, which I like less, but not enough to do anything about it.
– November 13, 2012 12:04 PM
I grew up in Noah Webster's hometown (West Hartford CT). There's still a little house where he supposedly lived, I never went there. It's close to the golf course; I guess he was a player.
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November 13, 2012 12:00 PM
Alexandra Petri :
Wow, every follow-up sentence I could think of about golf just slid below the dress code. No wonder they don't permit shouting during golf. It's not politeness. It's that literally everything you might shout sounds pretty suggestive. Except "Use the 9 Iron."
– November 13, 2012 12:07 PM
Replaced with holograms, I suppose.
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November 13, 2012 12:06 PM
Alexandra Petri :
(nods thoughtfully)
I mean, what WON'T be replaced with holograms, when you get right down to it?
– November 13, 2012 12:09 PM
What gorgeous (famous?) younger male would you choose to research your biography?
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November 13, 2012 11:25 AM
Alexandra Petri :
Hmm, younger? That really narrows the field.
Uh, Nicholas Hoult? Gosh, I'm only saying that because I can remember his name off the top of my head.
No, wait.
Justin Bieber. Not because I find him attractive, but because I read his dang biography, including the page that was just the word "GIRLS" over and over again, and I want him to suffer over mine.
– November 13, 2012 12:11 PM
Use a cursive font?
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November 13, 2012 12:09 PM
Alexandra Petri :
Ah, but the difference between "cursive" and "cursive font" is the difference between bacon and Canadian bacon.
– November 13, 2012 12:12 PM
Back in 1957, when I began junior high, our Art teacher taught us to do calligraphy with pens from the pre-fountain pen era, the kind with a point that one had to dip into a bottle of India ink (which, since it's indelible, can ruin a child's clothing if any spills or dribbles). Amazingly, I never spilt any on myself or my clothes that entire semester!
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November 13, 2012 11:21 AM
Alexandra Petri :
– November 13, 2012 12:13 PM
Wanna bet he doesn't worry about writing in cursive?
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November 13, 2012 11:25 AM
Alexandra Petri :
Never bet around Nate Silver.
– November 13, 2012 12:15 PM
Perhaps the de-emphasis on cursive works to my favor - I broke a bone in my writing hand some years ago and my writing has been sloppier ever since. But my printing, before and since, resembles a child's for some strange reason.
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November 13, 2012 11:40 AM
Alexandra Petri :
Children have great handwriting, though. It is illegible in a totally different and unexpected way. Mine looked like fat sheep moving through a bouncy landscape.
– November 13, 2012 12:17 PM
Holograms will NEVER be replaced with holograms. I think...
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November 13, 2012 12:13 PM
Alexandra Petri :
– November 13, 2012 12:17 PM
Just thought I'd mention how much I liked that throw-away line. Thanks.
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November 13, 2012 12:16 PM
Alexandra Petri :
Aw, thanks!
I'm starting a farm for Throwaway Lines. They don't eat much, and they so appreciate the attention.
– November 13, 2012 12:22 PM
I swing really hard with my stiff shafted woods.
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November 13, 2012 12:16 PM
Alexandra Petri :
– November 13, 2012 12:23 PM
Alexandra, any update on the December 2012 Apocalypse?
I know we had some new info on the Mayan calendar and then people were saying Snooki spawn would be a sign (looks like he has only one head and it's not spinning, so ...) and the Repbs say re-electing Obama is a sign. But this really looks like its gonna be a bust. I was really looking forward to using this as an excuse to not go to the in-laws for the holidays. Any help? TIA
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November 13, 2012 11:01 AM
Alexandra Petri :
Sorry, I think you're stuck. But if we run out of scandal by then, I'm sure we'll have a big run-up to it anyway.
– November 13, 2012 12:26 PM
So, do we get a link so we can read it? Pretty please. With snark on top (not snark about your project, just as a general contribution to the universe).
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November 13, 2012 8:31 AM
Alexandra Petri :
I think the great Chat Malfunction that has enveloped everyone else is now lumbering towards me. I'll post a link next week if I can come up with an excerpt I like.
– November 13, 2012 12:33 PM
And on that note, have a grand week! Keep reading the Compost, and feel free but unobligated to follow me on Twitter!
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November 13, 2012 12:34 PM